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kmanestor22

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Gamebreaker - better for sport than THS?
« on: July 17, 2007, 06:12:06 PM »
I recently punched up a Gamebreaker pin under bridge(5"from PAP), cg kicked out 45 degrees, flare-increasing weight hole.  I tested it out on a fresh house shot and wasn't too impressed.  It was very tame.  I don't believe than it was burning up, plenty of oil was coming back on the ball.  On that shot it was best to hit 15 in the heads and get the ball out to ten.  I am use to playing inside 20 to 10 with my Odyssey on the same shot.

Tonight I bowled our pro shot sweeper on the Regional Players Championship conditions, a pretty tough pattern.  It was like a totally different ball.  It was actually angular on the backend.  I moved inside to about 20 in the heads, got the ball to 11-12 and had a great shot with a decent amount of area.  I have bowled on this shot a couple times and it is one of the toughest patterns I've faced.  I'm sure anyone who has experienced it would agree.

Anyways, I was wondering if anyone else had the same experience with this ball?
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kmanestor22

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Re: Gamebreaker - better for sport than THS?
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2007, 12:03:58 AM »
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Re: Gamebreaker - better for sport than THS?
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2007, 12:44:47 AM »
WAH!

It looked like a lot of ball to me on Tuesday...but then again that's the only time I saw you throw it...

I'll continue to not contribute to the thread in anyway...Thank You!
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Re: Gamebreaker - better for sport than THS?
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2007, 02:55:28 AM »
PBA patterns, that I have seen, typically have LOTS of backend. If you're ball had less backend on a THS, maybe it was just too much oil.

I would definitely not say that, because of this one experience, that made it forever only useful on a "sport" shot. (PBA shot is not necessarily a "sport" shot.)

An Odyssey, due to its typically HUGE backend (mass bias core {edited}), is rarely useful on a sport shot or a PBA shot, UNLESS it is drilled for or your normal release has less backend.
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Edited on 7/20/2007 3:03 PM
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kmanestor22

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Re: Gamebreaker - better for sport than THS?
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2007, 01:05:18 PM »
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PBA patterns, that I have seen, typically have LOTS of backend. If you're ball had less backend on a THS, maybe it was just too much oil.

I would definitely not say that, because of this one experience, that made it forever only useful on a "sport" shot. (PBA shot is not necessarily a "sport" shot.)

An Odyssey, due to its typically HUGE backend (half mass bias core and half the 4000 grit finish), is rarely useful on a sport shot or a PBA shot, UNLESS it is drilled for or your normal release has less backend.
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The house shot I bowled on and the RPC pattern were the same length, same amount of lane available for backend.  And yes a PBA shot is a "sport" shot, especially this one.  I am the laneman at this house and our PBA shots are sport compliant.  What I was getting at was that this ball may provide area on a flatter pattern when others will not.  This requires a response to gradual differences in oil per board as opposed to great differences per board seen on THS.
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charlest

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Re: Gamebreaker - better for sport than THS?
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2007, 03:11:12 PM »
Such even reacting, almost benchmark balls such as the Gamebreaker (I'm beginning to think of it more as the new V2) are or have been traditionally very useful on both sport shots and on PBA huge-backend-shots.

Your PBA shots may be sport shot compliant (that, I think is a good thing) but they all did not used to be. It is possible that a defined sport shot is not as "strict" as it used to be. It used to be 2:1 ratio; I'm not sure if they all are now. Never mind.

If the surface and the drill combination allow a controlled arc, then such ball are perfect for sprot shots, as far as I am concerned, and, I think, many others.

I am bowling this summer on a wet/dry pattern and such balls, as well as more early reacting balls with small backends are virtually a necessity. A release providing the same thing is the other alternative.

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Re: Gamebreaker - better for sport than THS?
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2007, 03:13:06 PM »
Did you mention the way you had it drilled?

OH yeah...that drill is close to number 4E on Brunswicks drillsheet is for dryer wet/drys!

I have the same thing on a Columbia Shock and it is beautiful on overreacting conditions.  Might be a completely different ball with a stronger kick drilling.

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Re: Gamebreaker - better for sport than THS?
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2007, 04:04:10 PM »
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Did you mention the way you had it drilled?

OH yeah...that drill is close to number 4E on Brunswicks drillsheet is for dryer wet/drys!

I have the same thing on a Columbia Shock and it is beautiful on overreacting conditions.  Might be a completely different ball with a stronger kick drilling.

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Luckylefty
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Edited on 7/20/2007 3:14 PM


Um, that Brunswick drilling suggestion sheet applies to CURRENT technology.  The Gamebreaker core is, for lack of a more flattering word, DATED.  The same drilling on today's equipment, say a T-Road Pearl for example, would be an extremely strong drilling in my hands.
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