Author Topic: Ok Ebonite staffers need Striking Motion help (Read 8367 times)

mrbowlingnut · « **on:** November 24, 2008, 02:52:25 PM »

Ok got the ball had it punched 4 1/2 pin to and 5 inch mb to pap, threw the ball 2 sets and so far it is pretty straight with not much backend.

I am thinking it needs polish and the cover is burning up, I am able to use a Sauce with same pin to pap on same exact lane conditions.

Btw it has the recommended drilling just thought to add that, pin over ring and mb just right of the thumb.

What have you done different surface wise with this ball than other balls??? Going to call my driller and peck his mind out of his head over this ball, balls seems to look like it going to hook and just makes a funky move and does not hit well.

Btw the Sauce is one of the best balls i have threw in awhile, think of a better Diesel with more pop on the backend. Reminds me of my prized Diesel Particle Pearl from the old days, dang I loved that ball and shot big with it many times.

Ok help me figure out why Eddie would make this his Hi-Po ball, I know you are smart Eddie so help me see what is going on here. Too much surface or needsmore surface which is it???

Edited on 11/25/2008 0:24 AM

rockerbowler18 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 24, 2008, 10:58:37 PM »

I have an old Diesel Particle, lol. Little off topic. It's 15 lb. I'd sell it to you if the price was right.
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Rev Rate: 400-450
Speed: 17-18 mph
Current Average: 211

mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #2 on:** November 24, 2008, 11:02:37 PM »

It's ok I have friend that would give me his if I really wanted one, great ball though hook through the whole lane for me. Hammer has lacked a ball like the Diesel series for 5 years now, Hawg's were ok but nothing to go and buy today.

I have had 2 diesels and 3 DPP only the Diesel Reactive did i not like, hopefully someone can help me figure out this Striking Motion soon. Christmas coming and wife still not working but getting interviews finally, so being broke azz sucks.

rockerbowler18 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 24, 2008, 11:05:22 PM »

I know that broke azz feeling. I can't keep a job because I'm doing school and working on bowling.

Bowling is such a serious thing for me that working often got in the way of bowling, and bowling comes first (for now).

I had to choose 2: work, school, bowling.

Easy decision for me.

Just wondered if you wanted it...it's always nice to know your favorite ball is still out there...especially when it's particularly hard to find.
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JAT Junior Amateur Tour

Robb's Pro Shops: Bakersfield, California

Rev Rate: 400-450
Speed: 17-18 mph
Current Average: 211

bowl 2 win · « **Reply #4 on:** November 25, 2008, 10:13:03 AM »

I had the same situation with one of my striking motions as weel but I took it to 2000 an uit came alive. Great backend motion and great carry as well. I also polished one up and I think that I like it better for house shots like that. Pics of both are in my profile.
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Dan Belcher · « **Reply #5 on:** November 25, 2008, 12:08:10 PM »

When we had an Ebonite demo day, everybody that threw the Striking Motion wasn't terribly impressed by it because it labored on the backend. It didn't matter if they were on fresh oil or burnt lanes, it just never really wanted to turn the corner very well. By nature, it's just not a backend ball. It's also got a medium RG that keeps it from revving up very fast. I can see it being useful with some surface playing a more direct line on heavy oil, but I didn't really like it much otherwise. The Pin Slasher or NVD seemed to be much more popular options at the demo day.

mmcfarland300 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 25, 2008, 12:17:15 PM »

I can see this ball being very picky as far as being coverstock surface in order for it to work properly. I have heard a lot of people comparing this ball to the old Columbia EPX where you either hated it or loved it.

mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #7 on:** November 27, 2008, 06:15:06 PM »

Taking it down to 1k no polish tomorrow with a weight hole, so far not impressed at all.

I heard there is another pro shop guy who has around 500 rpms says it does not hook for him either and he had to take it down and put a hole in it also.

So we will try again tomorrow and see if this is big dog or better like the Ebonite Hype machine has put out again.

So far i wish that had got a 2nd Sauce and might still at some point, I like the colors of the SM but it sure does not hook much so far.

bowl 2 win · « **Reply #8 on:** November 27, 2008, 06:24:59 PM »

After a long practice session with my 2 Striking Motions I have found that this ball dose not have the core strenght to make a big turn if you try to swing the ball but it is also too strong if you try to play up the lane. Polishing the ball helped a bit but was still alittle too strong for up the lane play and dident have anything left trying to swing the ball. I have come to the conclusion that this ball needs either flying backends, a shorter shot or a sport shot in order to work properly. This ball just dose not have the backend I was expecting, which can be a good thing but I have other balls for that.
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link for some pics of my arsenal:
http://s201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/bowl-2-win/Fall%20Arsenal/

mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #9 on:** November 27, 2008, 07:43:37 PM »

Yep going to see how it goes or request a Sauce from the Ebo rep as a replacement ball. Ball is not doing close to what the driller thought it would do, he is telling me another pro shop co worker cannot even get it to hook alot and that guy is 100 times better than me.

I am thinking bad batch or something here.

renoatpikeville · « **Reply #10 on:** November 27, 2008, 08:04:04 PM »

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After a long practice session with my 2 Striking Motions I have found that this ball dose not have the core strenght to make a big turn if you try to swing the ball but it is also too strong if you try to play up the lane. Polishing the ball helped a bit but was still alittle too strong for up the lane play and dident have anything left trying to swing the ball. I have come to the conclusion that this ball needs either flying backends, a shorter shot or a sport shot in order to work properly. This ball just dose not have the backend I was expecting, which can be a good thing but I have other balls for that.
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Ebonite - "Bowl to Win!"

link for some pics of my arsenal:
http://s201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/bowl-2-win/Fall%20Arsenal/

This reminds me of the Original Fury...I had the same problem as you are describing with your Striking Motion. Hooked too much if you played up the lanes and couldn't recover when I moved in and swung it.

However, I took the ball up to 1000-1500 and put brunswick factory polish...worked much much better.

pegleg42090 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 27, 2008, 08:06:39 PM »

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This reminds me of the Original Fury...I had the same problem as you are describing with your Striking Motion. Hooked too much if you played up the lanes and couldn't recover when I moved in and swung it.

However, I took the ball up to 1000-1500 and put brunswick factory polish...worked much much better.

Oh no.. if this ball is even mentioned with the original Fury at all then it looks like I've gotta avoid it.....

DP3 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 27, 2008, 09:29:40 PM »

This ball grabs extremely early and needs tour like oil volume in the heads and midlane to get up the lane without expending energy. I've seen this ball in the hands of 4 local guys that throw it really well, and it's certainly a big hooking piece front-to-back. I'm not sure what you guys are bowling on or what type of rotation/revrates you have but I've seen this ball look very strong on a heavier volume house shot, Shark on proanvilane and Scorpion on proanvil lane.
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mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #13 on:** November 28, 2008, 09:43:22 AM »

Just throwing on a THS medium-heavy with clean backends in league, ball seems to just appear to want to hook and then just has this half azz backend reaction that just is kind of lazy.

My driller was kind of shocked the ball did not move alot, then his co worker messaged him the same exact results and that guy was a Penn State Bowler that DP3 knows.

I heard the co worker surfaced down and put a weight hole in it, his rev rate is easily 500 plus. He does throw pretty hard and i think the cover seems very hard to me feeling it, not a soft cover like the gamebreaker or Infinite one.

The ball has no visible flare rings even on oily shots, I suspect a bad batch with a higher durometer cover made it out of the plant. Weird ball so far going to throw it in about 3 hours with the changes after i stop by the pro shop and have the weight hole punched.

Sjf · « **Reply #14 on:** November 28, 2008, 10:06:10 PM »

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This ball grabs extremely early and needs tour like oil volume in the heads and midlane to get up the lane without expending energy. I've seen this ball in the hands of 4 local guys that throw it really well, and it's certainly a big hooking piece front-to-back. I'm not sure what you guys are bowling on or what type of rotation/revrates you have but I've seen this ball look very strong on a heavier volume house shot, Shark on proanvilane and Scorpion on proanvil lane.
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-DJ Marshall
...The Twelve In a Row Pro Shop. AMF Bowie Lanes -- Bowie, MD

DP3 did you see that this ball is being sold by Buddiesproshop.com for $124.99 online. My distributor told me about this tonite. I see Ebonite's floor pricing policy is working real well. Boy I am sure glad I bought the first 4 at $105. But I will not be reordering any from my distributor at the regular price of $132. Thanks again Ebonite.

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