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Big Jake

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question here on a " Infinite One X OUT"
« on: October 07, 2006, 12:13:21 PM »
Hey Group
 What is the Infinite One X OUT it probably is a blem but how would one categorize it?

 Also, would it roll the same as the original Infinite One? if your wondering I found it for just $109.oo over at bowlingball.com

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Re: question here on a " Infinite One X OUT"
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2006, 08:32:13 PM »
All X Out's are blems.  And to be correct, it is not on bowlingball.com.  We sell all of our seconds, blems, x-outs, etc... on http://www.bowlingdeals.com

The link to the Infinite One X Out is at
http://www.bowlingdeals.com/Bowling-Ball-4673/ebonite-infinite-one.html

And an explanation of x-outs, seconds, and blems is at
http://www.bowlingdeals.com/info/description.html


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Re: question here on a " Infinite One X OUT"
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2006, 08:56:52 PM »
hey thanks,

 
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And to be correct, it is not on bowlingball.com. We sell all of our seconds, blems, x-outs, etc... on


it's linked from there as thats where I got it from...and it's also a division of bowlingball.com!
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Re: question here on a " Infinite One X OUT"
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2006, 11:22:13 AM »
You may have seen it on our newsletter, but you should not have on bowlingball.com.  We try to keep a seperation because we want bowlingball.com to be 1st run product only.  If you buy from that site, you are guaranteed to receive a 1st.  Also if you request pin placement and top weight we guarantee it.  If we can not get the specs you want, we will contact you with the closes available.

You are correct that BowlingDeals is a sub division of the main site, but it doesn't sell all of the same equipment and specializes in selling 2nds and blems.
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Re: question here on a " Infinite One X OUT"
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2006, 12:10:12 PM »
One of the big problems with buying a X-Out with an assymetrical core is that you could get some really funky pin to cg to mass bias positions.  Some that maynot even be very usable by most people.  Plus it would take a talented driller to weigh out the ball properly and attempt to get a decent reaction out of it for you.  For example a Black Widow came in, bought off the internet.  The pin to cg placement was fine but the mass bias(bomb) was located 180 degrees away from them.  Instead of being Pin--cg--bomb this ball was bomb--pin--cg.  And the bomb was 6 3/4 away from the pin.  The pin to cg was about 2 1/2 to 3 inches.  Its now a bombs away ball instead of a bombs down (which is what is sold on the first run products).  Since the owner hasn't picked it up yet, we don't know how its going to roll.  

If you look at the link bowlingball provided on the description of what an X-out is, you'll notice that pin/cg/mass bias locations are on that list.  

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Big Jake

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Re: question here on a " Infinite One X OUT"
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2006, 12:46:02 PM »
Thanks for helping everyone, greatly appreciated

 btw, I am deciding 'tween the Action-Max and the Infinite One but I am leanig strongly towards the Infinite One.

A question though about the Infinite One. It seems I've read that a lot of people
are taking their Infinite One and taking a 1000 grit abralon-pad to it so wouldn't that then be "kinda" equal to the "The Big One" then?


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Re: question here on a " Infinite One X OUT"
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2006, 05:12:42 PM »
Why not spend the extra $20 honestly? You need to think this one through, if you are going to buy a good ball and drop that much, get one that is right.. The infinite is not as early as the big, personally I don't carry with it either but thats me.
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Re: question here on a " Infinite One X OUT"
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2006, 04:40:05 PM »
To clarify the Ebonite X-Outs. The ones that we have are all color swirl pattern issues. All are drillable, i.e., concerning pin, cg, mass bias.

One of our staffers just won a tournament with one and shot 848.

The Ebonite X-Out has the following:

SAME CORE
SAME COVERSTOCK
SAME WARRANTY
as a first. GUARANTEED

If a customer should receive a ball that they are told is undrillable. We will either assist in the layout or reissue another ball at no charge. We will even pay for the shipping both ways.


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Re: question here on a " Infinite One X OUT"
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2006, 05:35:30 PM »
This may not be pertinent to the topic at hand, but I want to point something out about Bowlingball.com. I use this company EXCLUSIVELY to buy my balls. I buy all my customer's balls there as well as my own. I ALWAYS request certian pins and top weights and I ALWAYS get exactly what I order. There are no "close enoughs". I always get exactly what I order. They have the best service I have ever received when ordering bowling products, and i've tried a few other popular places. Never have I had to return an order because of wrong ball specs or defective merchandise. I can safely say that if Bowlingball.com tells you a ball is useable........it is!! And I'll take this opportunity to thank them for a job well done. Hopefully, my pre-ordered Angular One will be here soon!!




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Re: question here on a " Infinite One X OUT"
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2006, 12:34:22 AM »
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This may not be pertinent to the topic at hand, but I want to point something out about Bowlingball.com. I use this company EXCLUSIVELY to buy my balls.


That's bowlingballs.com. not bowlingdeals.com  The Bowling Deals site sells the X outs and blems.  

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If a customer should receive a ball that they are told is undrillable. We will either assist in the layout or reissue another ball at no charge. We will even pay for the shipping both ways.


NO BALL is undrillable.  So that's a useless statement.  I can drill holes into any ball that fits into the jig on the drill press.  

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Big Jake

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Re: question here on a " Infinite One X OUT"
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2006, 09:02:02 AM »
Well, I ended up getting the Infinite One, I just have to figure out how I would like this puppy drilled.

But I am pretty sure that I will take it up to 1000 G-abralon.

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Re: question here on a " Infinite One X OUT"
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2006, 09:12:08 PM »
are x-out legal for use in leagues and competition

i should ask the forum as well?
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Re: question here on a " Infinite One X OUT"
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2006, 01:22:17 PM »
I just wanted to say that I have bought a bunch of X-Out Ones from Bowlingdeals.com and the balls perform great.  This was just from my own experience, but I don't have a problem with the X-Outs.  But like I said, others may have different experiences with X-Outs.

Oh, Burly, X-Outs are legal for use in league or competition play.
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Re: question here on a " Infinite One X OUT"
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2006, 10:19:10 AM »
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are x-out legal for use in leagues and competition


Yes.  X-outs are usually just long or short pins, too-high or too-low top weight, or CG out of line with the pin-MB (Storm calls those pro-CG).  Other than that, they are identical to the non-X-out version.  Same core, same cover, same factory surface.

Note that some combinations of pin length, CG placement to pin-MB line, and top weight may eliminate the possibility of certain layouts.  You won't be putting a 45* drill on a ball with a 6" pin and 4oz of top weight.

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Re: question here on a " Infinite One X OUT"
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2006, 09:06:18 PM »
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Well, I ended up getting the Infinite One, I just have to figure out how I would like this puppy drilled.

But I am pretty sure that I will take it up to 1000 G-abralon.



Well, alright now!!! so tomorrow I should be getting my "Infinite One" and since I am soooooooooooooooooo impressed with all of the new Ebonite ball releases I will be getting the "Angular One" too.

Btw, I already have "The One" and like I had said in the above line, I will more than likely take my new "Infinite One" up to 1000 G-abralon with an aggressive drill pattern

and then have the "Angular One" drilled to handle med-oil conditions when Mr. "Infinite One" starts to burn a whole in the lane

Good grief I can't wait...and I'm going to Las Vegas on Nov 18th for sweeps, should be fun!!!

Big Jake
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