Now the ball is not angular you guys have serious issues with what is angular what is not??? The only ball i currently own out of 280 right now that is more angular off the breakpoint is the SD-73, yes i had the widow and it was pretty angualr off the dry boards. My paradigm is pretty angular off the dry also but some would say that is arcy ball to them, well not if you use the assymetrical flip drilling like i use on all of higher mb balls.