Ebonite Endure....I swear I've seen it on the lanes.

But in all the videos  I have seen of it in general it looks like it really doesn't have much on the back.  Sort of a labored move.

Opinions, good?  It never seemed like it was a big seller, maybe for a reason?

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS I am looking at Brunswick Meanstreak Beatdown for this slot below my Ebonite Mission X(I like solids at my house!)

Endure might be the worst Ebonite ball ever made.

The Endure was just lazy down lane. Beatdown I worry will do the same thing. If you don't want lower rg, might I suggest the Smackdown? Just thinking of balls that will give you that solid reaction but much more continuous on the back with a symmetric core. Just giving you some more suggestions. Let me know if you have any more questions.

I have an Endure.  Threw it this morning.  When I got it in a trade it was a pin up stack leverage drill, which for me was around a 3 3/4 pin to PAP 1" off the VAL.  The ball flared alot early and refused to carry from anywhere inside of the oil line.  Definitely needs dry to get the ball moving and to carry.

I had it redrilled with a 5" pin under layout and hit the ball with a worn out 2000 abralon which is probably more like a 4-5000 finish. It is much more lively on the back with exceptional carry.  This ball wants to roll early, but the box finish(polish) wants to skid forever.  With a pin under layout and surface modification the ball starts up in the mid and continues very strong. 

I have alot slower speed since I've returned to bowling (around 15mph) but I have a lot of forward roll.  The strong layout want to puke from inside for me.  The weaker pin down gives me a much more lively move out of the end of the pattern.  I would avoid strong layouts unless you plan on keeping it dull and using it for oil if you're a slower speed player.

This ball is very close in reaction to a Loaded Revolver, DV8 Marauder, and pin down strong layout Cyclone that I have (for comparison sake).

The disorder looks pretty good IMO
resurgence core is a proven winner
combining the Oath and Vow cover into a hybred certainly has alot going for it
im told its about 1 foot earlier than the outburst, but stronger downlane
i cant wait to throw it

I have a Cyclone (Gold/Black/Silver) drilled pin up 5 1/2" no hole, and a Cyclone (Pink/Navy/Gold) drilled pin down 4" with a double thumb hole.  The Pin down is about 5 boards stronger than the pin up.  The pin up lays the pin about 2" above my fingers and this ball goes long with a lot of forward roll.  I only throw it when the 1-3 board is in play and is the perferred line.

Glad to help, and yes, I was comparing the Endure to the pin down Cyclone.  I have them both at the same finish with the polish slightly knocked off.  The Endure has it's "tipping point" where you can get but so far inside before it just won't make a strong enough move to get back and carry.  The strong, pin down Cyclone is much better from deep inside for me.