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Sir Bowl-A-Lot

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Powerhouse Hook Again System
« on: August 16, 2003, 04:20:45 AM »
Is there anyone else excited about the introduction of this remarkable ball reaction restoration system?
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Re: Powerhouse Hook Again System
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2003, 09:45:33 AM »
I've received my order of the hook again product a week ago and have tested in on 2 balls: An Apex Intensity and a Brunswick Inferno, both of which have well over 200 games in them and have lost their hook and hit.

I had both balls sanded down to 400 grit and the inferno shined up afterwards before putting them one at a time into the hook again chamber. When both were done 2 days later I proceeded to test them at a local bowling center whose lanes were freshly oiled.

The Apex showed a very noticable increase in backend hook AND pin-carry...very much like when I first used it. I was able to play a swing shot with the ball again! The Inferno's pin-carry was also restored to its original ass-kicking level *BUT* its overall reaction remained the same as before the treatment i.e. it still 'moved' like a dead ball. This has puzzled me somewhat...but its something I can accept for now. Possible answers:
- Hook again only works on Ebonite equipment (Booooo!!)
- Balls undergoing the treatment should be left in a sanded condition (instructions on ball surface prep. was not stated)
- Hook again does not work very well specifically on Activator Coverstocks, which I think has a different chemical composition than other reactives.
- Humidity factors? (I'm staying in a tropical region where its hot and humid as hell)


I've sent a PM to Mr. Hickland 3 days ago..but he has yet to reply.Anyone care to perhaps help me out/explain some things here?
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Re: Powerhouse Hook Again System
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2003, 12:04:37 PM »
Rev-less, which did you get the one for the pro shop, or for the home use.  Is there any difference?

Your comment re the tropics is interesting.  As I am also in a tropical country.

thanks in advance.
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Re: Powerhouse Hook Again System
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2003, 12:26:00 PM »
ambi1, I purchased the 2.5 gallon version of the hook again 'substance', which I suppose contains the same stuff as the bottled version. I say 'substance' because its not a liquid, but a brownish powder-like substance whose color and texture resembles that of sawdust.

I forgot to add that this substance didn't appear to have changed in any way after the 24 hours it was placed inside the chamber...it was still the same brownish dry stuff...which gives me the feeling that it can be used repeatedly (although the instructions stated otherwise). I shall attempt to test this at a later date.
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Re: Powerhouse Hook Again System
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2003, 11:16:16 PM »
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ambi1, I purchased the 2.5 gallon version of the hook again 'substance', which I suppose contains the same stuff as the bottled version. I say 'substance' because its not a liquid, but a brownish powder-like substance whose color and texture resembles that of sawdust.

I forgot to add that this substance didn't appear to have changed in any way after the 24 hours it was placed inside the chamber...it was still the same brownish dry stuff...which gives me the feeling that it can be used repeatedly (although the instructions stated otherwise). I shall attempt to test this at a later date.


Good luck with the testing.  Although if my background in chem is to be believed, I would not re-use it.  It will probably still works but not as well as new.  If i understand the way it works, correctly, it is supposed to absorb the 'plasticizer' that has migrated to the track area. This plasticizer migration is common in a lot of things, ex. ever seen the crazing on old plastic eyeglass frames?  Thats plasticizer leaving the frame.  

Since it will have absorb plasticizer after the 1st treatment, using it again might not yield the same results.  But it you have dead balls getting them to perform even just 50% more is not a bad thing.  So again good luck.

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chun914

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Re: Powerhouse Hook Again System
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2003, 12:06:53 AM »
hook again for ebonite ONLY..!
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Re: Powerhouse Hook Again System
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2003, 01:49:00 AM »
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hook again for ebonite ONLY..!


Chun, could you elaborate more?

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Sir Bowl-A-Lot

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Re: Powerhouse Hook Again System
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2003, 09:45:14 AM »
Does the Hook Again system also suck out absorbed lane oil from the ball in addition to the plasticizer?
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Re: Powerhouse Hook Again System
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2003, 01:24:52 AM »
I would LOVE to have someone try this test with the hook again system VS. a bunch of crushed up oil absorbant diatomaceous earth (http://www.instawares.com/OptiSorb-Premium-Oil-Absorbent--333-LB-Bag.8933MOLTAN.0.7.htm)

Anyone willing to bet on the results?
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The great one

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Re: Powerhouse Hook Again System
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2003, 02:07:44 AM »
I'm w/you. I've been doing this to bring alive dead balls for a while, and it works very well.
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Re: Powerhouse Hook Again System
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2003, 03:04:20 AM »
Great One,

Can you elaborate a bit on how you have applied the Optisorb? How have you packed the ball in it? How long?

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Re: Powerhouse Hook Again System
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2003, 01:28:54 PM »
Bjaardker - mucho interesting.  Have you tried it one your balls?

could you post the procedure and results?

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Rev-less

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Re: Powerhouse Hook Again System
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2003, 10:35:55 PM »
Ok folks, after more extensive testing and recommendations from Mr. Hickland, I'm convinced that the Hook Again product DOES work...to a certain degree.

When I re-used the hook again compound to treat another dead ball (an Ebonite Matrix Trimax), the results were, as ambi1 predicted, not as good...although the hook for the Matrix was restored a little. I guess it really isn't wise to re-use the stuff after all.

Sir-Bowl-A-Lot, I think the main purpose of the product is to extract the plasticizer from the dead ball, in addition to removing oil and dirt...at least thats what the product brochure says. Honestly I have no idea how a dry substance like that could extract anything from a ball and still look the same 24 hours later, but it works and its effects appear to be lasting, so I'm happy

Just another observation: I noticed that all the balls I treated had very little oil rings on them when I threw them on fresh lanes. I had an untreated and 1-week old Fuze Detonator showing more oil rings than the treated inferno.

Bjaardker: That product you mentioned looks suspiciously similar to the hook-again compound...I just might order some of that and field test it.
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Re: Powerhouse Hook Again System
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2003, 12:01:53 AM »
Anyone thought about getting a Material Safety Data Sheet for Hook Again?

I'm sure an MSDS might give us a little more insight into what we're dealing with.

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ambi1

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Re: Powerhouse Hook Again System
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2003, 11:43:47 AM »
quote:
Ok folks, after more extensive testing and recommendations from Mr. Hickland, I'm convinced that the Hook Again product DOES work...to a certain degree.

When I re-used the hook again compound to treat another dead ball (an Ebonite Matrix Trimax), the results were, as ambi1 predicted, not as good...although the hook for the Matrix was restored a little. I guess it really isn't wise to re-use the stuff after all.

Sir-Bowl-A-Lot, I think the main purpose of the product is to extract the plasticizer from the dead ball, in addition to removing oil and dirt...at least thats what the product brochure says. Honestly I have no idea how a dry substance like that could extract anything from a ball and still look the same 24 hours later, but it works and its effects appear to be lasting, so I'm happy

Just another observation: I noticed that all the balls I treated had very little oil rings on them when I threw them on fresh lanes. I had an untreated and 1-week old Fuze Detonator showing more oil rings than the treated inferno.

Bjaardker: That product you mentioned looks suspiciously similar to the hook-again compound...I just might order some of that and field test it.



Rev-less: a few more inquiries if you don't mind.  most people are probably asking the same thing:

1) would you say it works with other brands, if so,does it work to the same degree as on ebonite balls.

2) would you agree with the company's claim of restoration of performance up to 99%  (personally, any dead ball I can bring back to +- 80% is a plus already).

Thanks in advance
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