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bowler 801

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solid mission
« on: December 09, 2010, 01:50:15 AM »
OK All I know that the Mission 2.0 is a fairly new release and the original Mission is coming up on it's 1 year release date but just curious if anybody has heard if Ebonite has plans to come out with a totally solid version of the Mission??? I have never been able to throw anything with pearl ( pearl challenged )or with a shine, everything i have has a duller surface and would very much like to throw a Mission but can't in it's current coverstocks
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J_Mac

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Re: solid mission
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2010, 10:04:14 AM »
Pro shops were told that there is really no point in releasing a "solid" version of the Mission coverstock.

Who wants a ball that has used up all it's energy 20' down the lane?

If you want a Mission to start up earlier and behave more smoothly just dull it.




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Dyno-Joe

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Re: solid mission
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2010, 10:18:57 AM »
Does Ebonite make anymore solids? It seems everything has some pearl to it.
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BowlingChat

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Re: solid mission
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2010, 10:27:16 AM »
The surface roughness of a pearl coverstock is higher than that of its equivalent solid coverstock.

This is due to the MICA additive to create the pearl effect.
Mica flake is a particle that fractures only in one direction.
Pearls being "longer" is a misnomer.
Its usually the effect of shelf appeal polish on pearl balls that creates this skid.

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jls

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Re: solid mission
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2010, 12:42:37 PM »
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OK All I know that the Mission 2.0 is a fairly new release and the original Mission is coming up on it's 1 year release date but just curious if anybody has heard if Ebonite has plans to come out with a totally solid version of the Mission??? I have never been able to throw anything with pearl ( pearl challenged )or with a shine, everything i have has a duller surface and would very much like to throw a Mission but can't in it's current coverstocks



Though both Mission's are a pearl,,, The box finish is a 2000 abralon pad with no polish...
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ToiletLogCore

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Re: solid mission
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2010, 01:03:39 PM »
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The surface roughness of a pearl coverstock is higher than that of its equivalent solid coverstock.

This is due to the MICA additive to create the pearl effect.
Mica flake is a particle that fractures only in one direction.
Pearls being "longer" is a misnomer.
Its usually the effect of shelf appeal polish on pearl balls that creates this skid.

Do not fear knocking polish off of pearls.
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WTF are you talking about.  We're not discussing rock collections here, which by your above response is all I believe you have in your head.  

MICA and pearl additives are two seperate things.  
The Mission and Mission 2.0 came at the same box finish, 2000 (that means no shelf appeal polish) and guess what?  Yes the Mission 2.0 with all it's pearl in it goes MUCH further before making a move than the Mission.

Now go back to sniffing MICA
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laddog54

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Re: solid mission
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2010, 01:28:58 PM »
I am not a big polished Pearl guy anymore since I tend to spin the ball. I like my solids like the Cell, Grand Illusion and SD-73's. I have found that my Pearl Cell at 2000ab is almost perfect, still gets farther than the Cell but doesn't give me an over under. The best pearl ball I have thrown lately is the Mission at 2000ab. Absolutely predictible and reminds me of the motion my Cell offers with a bit more continuation. If you want a solid Mission soley because the original is pearl than you really should give the original a shot. I think if you drill it like you would a solid and try it you will be satisfied. I even have used mine at a 1000ab for the longer sport shots and it is well up to the task.
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Cornerpin

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Re: solid mission
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2010, 01:32:10 PM »
If MICA is not the pearl substance then Roto Grip must be wrong because they have this description of their Global Alliance international ball: "Those bowling on heavier volumes that need more friction on oil will like the solid version of this coverstock. Take out the MICA (pearl) and the ball slows down faster enhancing motion through the mid-lane."

Did you think they ground up actual pearls and added to the the coverstocks?  Pretty sure this would increase the cost of a pearl ball if this was the case.
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BowlingChat

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Re: solid mission
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2010, 02:11:04 PM »
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WTF are you talking about.


Im not comparing pearl coverstock to pearl coverstock.
The base grits arent the same either, 500 vs 800.
Valleys (Ra) of the coverstock pores on Mission 2.0 will be shallower, giving it more length.

The comparison is Solid vs. Pearl.
Its a fact, surface roughness of a pearl with MICA additive (vast majority pearls), will have a greater surface roughness compared to its equivalent solid.

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The Stroke

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Re: solid mission
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2010, 02:15:53 PM »
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WTF are you talking about.


Im not comparing pearl coverstock to pearl coverstock.
The base grits arent the same either, 500 vs 800.
Valleys (Ra) of the coverstock pores on Mission 2.0 will be shallower, giving it more length.

The comparison is Solid vs. Pearl.
Its a fact, surface roughness of a pearl with MICA additive (vast majority pearls), will have a greater surface roughness compared to its equivalent solid.

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ToiletLogCore

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Re: solid mission
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2010, 02:58:52 PM »
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WTF are you talking about.


Im not comparing pearl coverstock to pearl coverstock.
The base grits arent the same either, 500 vs 800.
Valleys (Ra) of the coverstock pores on Mission 2.0 will be shallower, giving it more length.

The comparison is Solid vs. Pearl.
Its a fact, surface roughness of a pearl with MICA additive (vast majority pearls), will have a greater surface roughness compared to its equivalent solid.

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Um, not quite sure what allbowling troll chat is, but if you must know, it is a slow day at work.  So I just decided to come to my favorite website and correct the 180 hacks that spew information that is completely useless when it comes to actually throwing the ball.  
But hey, you worry about the MICA in the ball, and I'll stick with making quality shots in order to improve.
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Pattayabowler

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Re: solid mission
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2010, 08:52:00 AM »
I don't know if Ebonite Intl. will come out with a Mission Solid, but I was told today that a new ball in the Mission Series will be released in February called "Mission Domination".  I was looking at the data on a reps cellphone, but didn't catch whether it was a solid or a pearl, but I do remember seeing that the final surface remains at 2000 Abralon.
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john rambo

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Re: solid mission
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2010, 12:55:10 PM »
Sounds like the Storm Paradigm Domination
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