Post by: Ramtart on March 10, 2006, 03:46:11 AM
pale of Hot Water for 15 minutes. I have two of them, but the one I dipped
in hot water is scuffed at approximately 800 grit surface. I decided to do
this, because of its' oil absorption capabilities as advertised.
Ball had about 35-40 games on it before the treatment.
When I came back after about 15 minutes, you could see the oil floating to
the top. I removed the ball and it was pretty greasy hehe.
I dried it off with a towel and emptied the bucket. Man you could smell the
oil. I had to wash the bucket with some detergent hehe.
Results on the lanes 30 minutes later during league:
After a few shots, I noticed a considerable difference overall.
The ball was reading the mids better and I saw new life in its' backend reaction.
I noticed a lot of flare as well.
I guess it is mission accomplished. I have done the Hot water treatment with some of my other equipment and it has worked well so far.
If you are hesistant to put The One in Hot Water, I hope this report helps you in getting a better picture of what happens during this process.
Take care everyone,
Ram
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Edited on 3/10/2006 11:46 AM
Post by: scotts33 on March 10, 2006, 11:48:56 AM
Yours results are basically the same I have found with DT balls with their "soaker" cover.
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Post by: Ramtart on March 10, 2006, 11:51:44 AM
Funny thing. I didn't use dawn this time. I should've tried though.
What is the process? Should I put a few drops in the water or apply
it directly to the ball and then dip the ball in?
Thanks! Ram
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Post by: scotts33 on March 10, 2006, 11:58:01 AM
My DT Thing and TR have many, many games on them. Same basic reaction as new.
I use a cleaning regimen of Legends ball cleaner after bowling to remove as much dirt and grime. Then, hot water soak after 50 games.
I use Dawn cuz Phil Cardinale said that was what he recommended. Simple Green can leave a film.
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Post by: splendorlex on March 10, 2006, 12:20:44 PM
Post by: the pizz on March 10, 2006, 05:30:36 PM
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Post by: a_ak57 on March 10, 2006, 05:45:16 PM
quote:
why bother covering up the holes? what does it hurt to get some water in them? I can't beleive it wouldn't dry out.
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me...... (finally decided to add a signature)
I think the point is because if the water is hot enough, it will heat up the core. And since the ball is made of different materials that expand and contract at different rates, it could separate. Not sure if anyone has had that happen but it's the "better safe than sorry" approach.
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Post by: TTforshort on March 10, 2006, 05:56:24 PM
I have never covered the finger holes and never had a problem with water left over. I carefully dry the holes and never use the balls the same day because a little dampness remains.
TT
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Post by: Connor on March 10, 2006, 05:57:52 PM
DISHWASHER!!!
it is way easier... just make sure you turn off the dry cycle, and have the holes facing down, so they dont retain water... wait about 12 hours for all the water to dry out. Use regular dishwasher detergent, it is an excellent degreaser. As far as the core sep, never had it happen, and I have done this with at least 15 different balls from all companies except brunswick (I have never owned a brunswick ball) and I have been doing for over 5 years....
It definatley works...
Post by: charlest on March 10, 2006, 08:15:49 PM
quote:
why bother covering up the holes? what does it hurt to get some water in them? I can't beleive it wouldn't dry out.
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Brunswick,Lane#1,Morich,Hammer,Ebonite,Columbia,AMF,Storm,RotoGrip,Track......they all leave ten pins, I swear after I try dynothane and lanemaster if the ten pin is still there I might begin to think it might just be
me...... (finally decided to add a signature)
Because some core are able to absorb water. Then in extremes of heat and/or cold, you get different expansion and compression rates from core and cover, which can lead to a build up of pressure, which can lead to _____.
Let's face it- it takes 2 seconds to be careful and have the holes face up or cover or plug them with something, like waterproof tape. Why go throw all the trouble of trying to revivify a ball and then do something not smart.
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Post by: charlest on March 10, 2006, 08:18:09 PM
quote:
Hey Scott,
Funny thing. I didn't use dawn this time. I should've tried though.
What is the process? Should I put a few drops in the water or apply
it directly to the ball and then dip the ball in?
Thanks! Ram
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just put it in the hot water. It's job is strictly to keep the oil in solution by breaking it up. just like it does for household grease and oil. Wipe the ball off immediately with paper towels or terry cloth towels.
KISS!
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Post by: Ramtart on March 10, 2006, 11:05:08 PM
and thumb holes. I will use dawn next time =)
Regards,
SuperTart Billy Graham
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Post by: purduepaul on March 10, 2006, 11:10:40 PM
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Post by: scotts33 on March 10, 2006, 11:35:59 PM
quote:
What temperature wsa the water you put the bowling ball in.
Paul
As hot as it will come out of the tap. Not hot enough to ruin balls cover.
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Post by: BrunsMike on March 11, 2006, 12:06:17 AM
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Post by: bowlingmaniac017 on March 11, 2006, 12:28:14 PM
Post by: charlest on March 12, 2006, 06:15:10 AM
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i just used the sink the last time i did this, and that was a while ago with an unbelieveably soaked zone pro azure.. brought her right back to life.. mom wasn't happy with oil in the sink though so i dont reccomend that hahaha
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When all else fails?STRAP THE LANE!
No body would be happy with it. You're supposed to put in a pail!
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Edited on 3/13/2006 2:47 PM
Post by: 802dave on March 13, 2006, 09:56:03 AM
How about an old Columbia Aftershock? I've shot a couple 300's with it and now it seems dead...
I'm thinking about buying The One and the Big One; I've been concerned about how long the coverstocks will last; if the hot water & dawn treatment brings them back to life, then that takes care of my concern.
Thanks!
Dave
Post by: scotts33 on March 13, 2006, 10:14:32 AM
So far, I see no loss in reaction with my The One. Has now over 75 games on it. Usually by now I'd see some reaction loss. I use a good cleaning regimen. I think with any new ball that's key.
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Post by: Crankenstein300 on March 13, 2006, 11:27:06 AM
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Do you know if the hot water and dawn treatment will work for any reactive?
Works great. I did it to my Shock Trauma, Infernos, and a Super Charge with very noticeable results to all of them.
Post by: 802dave on March 13, 2006, 11:39:04 AM
I need to try the pale method on them all! Maybe it'll revive the Big Bully as well.
Thanks!
Dave
Post by: squeeds on March 30, 2006, 12:51:14 PM
I have NEVER taped the holes up on either ball when I soak them. I usually shoot for around 120 degrees, which is just a bit hotter than tap (ours really doesn't get that hot). Usually I go 3 tablespoons of simple green in a 1.5 qt bucket, fill it up about half way, and put the ball in holes facing down. Also use a very light scotchbrite pad over the whole thing to remove any belt marks. I rinse the ball, and let dry at least overnight.
Post by: rackattack on March 30, 2006, 02:16:58 PM
Whole operation is 20-30 min to clean and 2-3 hours to dry.
I do this evey 30 games or so and there is never a heavy build up.
I have done this to all my equipment with no negative results.
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Post by: rackattack on March 30, 2006, 03:50:00 PM
All the time.I just use a soft rag instead of the scrub and re-apply polish when dry.
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Post by: BigWillyStyle on March 30, 2006, 04:08:12 PM
Big Willy Style
PS...I didn't mean to hijack your post Ram...was giving my experience and decided to ask for advice as well...
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Post by: Ramtart on April 10, 2006, 09:43:05 AM
I gave my other The One (This one is OOB Polished)
the hot water treatment as well
It worked well and the ball is as tacky as ever!
Took it out for a spin last night at a mini-tourney
and from the looks of it, hasn't lost its' great reaction.
Thanks again guys!
Ramtart
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Post by: jnobcrew on April 10, 2006, 01:43:11 PM
Post by: Joebowler98 on April 12, 2006, 12:18:29 AM
Thanks!
Tim
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Post by: Monster Stitch on April 12, 2006, 10:16:50 AM
Works great.