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wolfcastle

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v2 strong vs. x-factor deuce
« on: October 12, 2003, 05:32:44 PM »
hallo,

i´m a bowler from germany so please excuse my bad english.

i use columbia´s jekyll and hyde and i love it.
i tried a storm x-factor deuce and the ball did nothing. we have a 42 feet oil pattern and it won´t hook. my hyde hooks much more.
the reason why i drilled my x-factor is that i wanted to have a ball for heavier and longer oiled pattern. every time i used no columbia balls it was a mistake, but i would like to give an other lable a chance.

could the v2 strong be a good choice?

my avarage is round about 195.
14 lbs. balls
fingers behind the ball at 5 o´clock to have good rotation
high track on the ball, medium speed.
 

 

jensm

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Re: v2 strong vs. x-factor deuce
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2003, 09:53:56 AM »
Wolfcastle,

The X-Factor Deuce will probably skid too long for you if the pattern is heavy and long. The V2 Strong will roll and grab earlier. Better in those conditions.


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wolfcastle

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Re: v2 strong vs. x-factor deuce
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2003, 07:21:52 AM »
hi,

i bought the v2 und drilled it

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.................cg.........
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................th.......

it has a gigantic trackflare but not the extrem hook i hoped it would have.
the hit into the pins is great.

jensm

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Re: v2 strong vs. x-factor deuce
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2003, 09:18:39 AM »
Wolfcastle,

How do you think the V2 Strong compares to your other bowling balls? Hopefully you get more choices choosing a line to the pocket with a strong particle in your bag.

I am not sure exactly what you had hoped for hook-wise. Did you hope for more hook when the ball hits the dry in the backend or more of a strong arc starting in the midlane?

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jensm

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Re: v2 strong vs. x-factor deuce
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2003, 09:26:11 AM »
Wolfcastle,

The drilling you chose makes for a bit more length and a bit less hook than a more leverages drilling. A more leveraged drilling would be something like this.


...............mf...rf......
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..........................cg
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................th..........


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wolfcastle

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Re: v2 strong vs. x-factor deuce
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2003, 12:03:25 PM »
hi jensm,

i hope i understood your question right.

if the hyde won´t hook on longer and heavyer pattern the v2 shall do the job.
i bowl through the middle of the lane for example from board 20 to 10 and the ball hooks back into the pocket.

the hyde makes a strong continues curve at the breakpoint.
it is drilled:

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.........mf...rf.....
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..............cg.....
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..........th.........

it´s a great ball

my jekyll goes longer and makes a sharp hook at the breakpoint.
the jekyll is drilled:


...............pin....
..........mf...rf.....
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..............cg.....
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...........th......
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do you have an idea how i could drill the v2 better, for a stronger hook?

thanks for your help.

Edited on 10/15/2003 12:20 PM

wolfcastle

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Re: v2 strong vs. x-factor deuce
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2003, 12:05:10 PM »
i´ve forgotten. at the moment the hyde has a larger hook, it makes more boards than the v2 on a 42 feet pattern.
the pin of the v2 is a bit more on the right side than i draw it.
the v2 is drilled

......................pin....
..........mf..rf...........
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.............cg.......
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...........th........








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Edited on 10/15/2003 12:17 PM

Stan

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Re: v2 strong vs. x-factor deuce
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2003, 12:19:31 PM »
If you want to stay with Columbia, try the Throttle.  If you want to try a Storm Product, go with the new Fear Factor.  Both balls will work very well in a longer oil patern.  The V2 strong is a good ball but I feel the others will work much better in longer oil especially in the middle of the lane.

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Re: v2 strong vs. x-factor deuce
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2003, 12:20:02 PM »
If you want to stay with Columbia, try the Throttle.  If you want to try a Storm Product, go with the new Fear Factor.  Both balls will work very well in a longer oil patern.  The V2 strong is a good ball but I feel the others will work much better in longer oil especially in the middle of the lane.

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Re: v2 strong vs. x-factor deuce
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2003, 12:20:04 PM »
If you want to stay with Columbia, try the Throttle.  If you want to try a Storm Product, go with the new Fear Factor.  Both balls will work very well in a longer oil patern.  The V2 strong is a good ball but I feel the others will work much better in longer oil especially in the middle of the lane.

Good Luck

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Re: v2 strong vs. x-factor deuce
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2003, 03:58:19 PM »
Wolfcastle,

The low RG of the Hyde makes it a very early revving ball. This is good on oilier lanes. You can get the V2 Strong to start turning earlier in the lane and get a stronger finish with a more leveraged drilling (see below). If you don't want to plug and redrill the ball you can get it to start turning earlier by adding a balance hole 3 3/8 inches below your PAP

......mf...rf......
......... pin......
.............................PAP
..................cg
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Of course you can find stronger balls than the V2 Strong in the marketplace. However, the V2 Strong is a really strong ball as well.

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wolfcastle

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Re: v2 strong vs. x-factor deuce
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2003, 06:23:55 AM »
hi jensm,

i´ve drilled an extra-hole and the ball starts earlier to roll.

thanks for that tip.

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...............mf..rf..........
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jensm

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Re: v2 strong vs. x-factor deuce
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2003, 12:59:39 PM »
Wolfcastle,

Glad to hear it worked out for you. Good luck in the future!


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Re: v2 strong vs. x-factor deuce
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2003, 12:56:52 AM »
i have been using my V2 strong for about 2 weeks now. at first, i was dismayed with the 'hit' in the pocket. mine tends to "shove" the pins into the pit. i use a Messenger Ti Pearl on the mediums, and man that ball blows pins EVERYWHERE. the change to the V2 was quite noticable. BUT!, on my heavy-oil tuesday night league, the V2 stomps the messenger into the gutter. i am averaging 179 with that V2 ball right now. on the same lanes with the messenger... i was averaging 136. now that i have learned its characteristics and flaws (stone 7 pins, at least 2 a game), it works great.

i am a lefty tweener with medium ball speed. i use all 14 lb. equipment.

.......pin...
........RF...MF
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.......CG.....
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Edited on 10/22/2003 1:07 AM