win a ball from Bowling.com

Author Topic: Shockingly poor quality from Ebonite  (Read 5926 times)

Bowljr300

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 115
Shockingly poor quality from Ebonite
« on: April 21, 2006, 07:53:16 AM »
I own a proshop in Texas and have drilled many of
Ebonite's "One" bowling balls.  A few of my customers
have come back to say that they were dissatisfied with
the ball reaction.  By chance, I placed one of the balls
on a Haas resurface machine for one minute using the
diamond wheels. To my astonishment, the ball had shiny
areas all over it--indicating flat spots.  I resurfaced
another customer's "one" and found that it also had flat
spots all over it.  I resurfaced four other "one" balls
that I had in inventory (1-16lb, 2-15lb, 1-14lb; all four
were as out-of-round as they could possibly be.
Next, I tried my experiement on four "Big One" balls that
were in inventory; all four of them were in the same
out-of-round condition.  This sort of poor quality from
Ebonite is shocking!!

As for the customers whose balls I resurfaced, they love
the new reaction.

If you own an Ebonite "One" or "Big One" and are unhappy
with it, please don't give up on it.  Take it to a shop
that has a resurfacing machine that can restore it to
a proper round condition.

Ebonite:  Please improve your poor quality!


 

Billy Ray

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 984
Re: Shockingly poor quality from Ebonite
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2006, 04:35:36 PM »
Were the flat spots in the track?

--------------------
Billy Ray
www.raysproshop.com
"Let Us Help You Become More Competitive"
Billy Ray
Track Pro Staff
Owner Rays Pro Shop
Inside Sparetime Lanes-East Greenbush
"Let Us Help You Become More Competitive"

Bowljr300

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 115
Re: Shockingly poor quality from Ebonite
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2006, 04:37:04 PM »
The flat spots were all over the balls, including
all of the track area and areas where the track flares.

Billy Ray

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 984
Re: Shockingly poor quality from Ebonite
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2006, 05:04:07 PM »
I find it hard to believe these could have caused such a large difference in ball reaction but were not making noise thumping down the lane?

I am not saying I dont believe you but having been in and around the business for over 20 years and seen some really weird stuff with bowling balls, I find it hard to believe it was a factory problem? I wonder if something happened during shipping or possibly its something they didnt know about? Have you contacted Ebonite about this directly? Sometimes thats the only way a manufacturer learns about some stuff like this is through our input.

What would lead me to think this was an isolated incident is that ALOT of people love these balls myself included and we should have heard about this much sooner. Are all the balls from the same batch?
--------------------
Billy Ray
www.raysproshop.com
"Let Us Help You Become More Competitive"
Billy Ray
Track Pro Staff
Owner Rays Pro Shop
Inside Sparetime Lanes-East Greenbush
"Let Us Help You Become More Competitive"

Bowljr300

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 115
Re: Shockingly poor quality from Ebonite
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2006, 05:12:44 PM »
I have not yet contacted Ebonite, but will as soon as
possible.

The balls are not from the same batch.  Two of them were
purchased when the "One" was first released.  The others
were recent purchases.  Also, keep in mind that the same
problem appears to be happening with the "Big One".

Lastly, not all of my customers were dissatisfied with
their purchase; for those who were, this has turned out
to have made a huge difference.

Bowljr300

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 115
Re: Shockingly poor quality from Ebonite
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2006, 05:27:23 PM »
FYI

If my Haas machine were in need of calibration, I would
be seeing ALL bowling balls with this problem.

I didn't mention in my original post that I checked two
Columbia balls and two MoRich balls and they were in
excellent condition.

Bowljr300

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 115
Re: Shockingly poor quality from Ebonite
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2006, 06:12:18 PM »
I would never recommend that bowlers stay away from a
particular manufacturer, as they all make excellent
products.  I sell Ebonite products and I throw Ebonite
bowling balls.

The point of my posting was this:  If you don't like a
bowling ball reaction, try having it resurfaced.  

This is good advise, be it Ebonite or any other
manufacturer.

the pizz

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 513
Re: Shockingly poor quality from Ebonite
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2006, 07:03:03 PM »
this could be why my maxim hooks so much.
--------------------
Paul Smith
04/05 PBA West Region Rookie of the Year
Ebonite Regional Staff
"Bowl to Win"

sammy the sage

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 432
Re: Shockingly poor quality from Ebonite
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2006, 09:12:16 PM »
am seeing this in fla...also...

thanks for the heads-up....glad to know am not going crazy...

Bowljr300

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 115
Re: Shockingly poor quality from Ebonite
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2006, 09:57:38 PM »
Sammy,

Thank you for advising that you are seeing this same
problem in Florida.  I feel better knowing that I'm not
the only one who has found there to be a problem with
Ebonite's two newest releases.

ChrisH

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 73
Re: Shockingly poor quality from Ebonite
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2006, 04:55:56 PM »
My shop has resurfaced a few of each (The One & Big One) and we have not noticed these "flat" spots. We too are using a Haus machine!
--------------------
Chris Hayes
McCorvey's Pro Shop
www.mccorveysproshop.com
IBPSIA certified

Bowljr300

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 115
Re: Shockingly poor quality from Ebonite
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2006, 10:20:41 PM »
Chris,

Next time you resurface one of these two balls, be
certain to use the diamond wheels for only 1 minute.
Dry the ball off and see if you find shiny areas mixed
with dull ones.  If you do, then the ball has flat
spots.

Edited on 4/23/2006 10:20 PM

ambi1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 769
Re: Shockingly poor quality from Ebonite
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2006, 01:51:35 AM »
Whats a ring???
--------------------


DARK BEER IT IS THEN!


DARK BEER IT IS THEN!

Billy Ray

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 984
Re: Shockingly poor quality from Ebonite
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2006, 07:32:32 AM »
I think the Ring he is referring to is the Brunswick diameter ring. It measured the maximum diameter allowed by the ABC rules. Its an old tool we used to have one 15 years ago and you could see the difference in ball diameters between manufacturers.
--------------------
Billy Ray
www.raysproshop.com
"Let Us Help You Become More Competitive"
Billy Ray
Track Pro Staff
Owner Rays Pro Shop
Inside Sparetime Lanes-East Greenbush
"Let Us Help You Become More Competitive"

da Shiv

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1118
Re: Shockingly poor quality from Ebonite
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2006, 09:40:50 AM »
Has this out-of-round problem appeared on Hammer balls?

Shiv
--------------------
Listening to the monotonous staccato of rain on my desk top
Listening to the monotonous staccato of rain on my desk top