I have one that is 2 3/4 x 90 x 40 with no weight hole. I can't get left of the track with it b/c it really stands up and rolls out but it's awesome throwing it really hard up around 8 or 10 with a touch of belly. I really like it just can't use it very often. Carry is very good going up the lane but like I said can't really hook it gotta go hard and straight.