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Equipment Boards => Ebonite => Topic started by: strikestriketapped on July 31, 2006, 11:21:05 AM

Title: So hard to choose!
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 31, 2006, 11:21:05 AM: I'm looking at the Infinite One, but cannot decide what heavy oil ball to get. I want it to be stronger than my Strike Zone. It doesn't have to be versatile because that's what my other balls are for. I want my heavy oil ball to be able to handle the types of oil tournaments usually lay out. Scorchin' gets some good and some bad reviews, same with the Passion. The Action Max isn't even on the site yet and the Infinite One is from Ebonite, which I hear dies. So how could you possibly eliminate and make up your mind? I like the Battle, but I can't say I really want to bowl with another ugly bowling ball.
Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: bowlingmaniac017 on July 31, 2006, 07:28:43 PM: Epic Battle is a sweet ball. If you need FLOOD... Centaur AMB Particle (OOB 300 grit sanded). I hear even with a weak layout on this ball its still STRONG!
Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 31, 2006, 07:35:25 PM: Heh, I'd rather stay with more popular companies. I don't mean flood, just something that outhooks my Strike Zone and can handle tournament oil.
Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: Xfest on July 31, 2006, 08:45:48 PM: Well. if you are looking for something in the "heavy" oil range - i would not recommend ebonite.

im just saying, their coverstocks are hard to versitate or change to something else. The infinite one is a soaker ball, that picks up alot of oil.

Do not go with the scorchin' - only bad results have come out of the ball from my experiences.

For heavy - its hard to recommend a company in other forums - but i would say to look at Track or Storm or Hammer.
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Track Mean Machine (Heavy)
Lane #1 Dirty Bomb (Med-Heavy)
Track Machine (Medium)
Brunswick Original Inferno (Light-Med)
Track Desert Heat (Light)
Brunswick Ambush (Spare)

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Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 31, 2006, 08:56:22 PM: Robo, Passion, or Hawg Zilla? Which one would be best for me?
Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: Xfest on July 31, 2006, 09:20:07 PM: Robo is a great ball - its not the greatest for "floods"

Passion - past the cracking problem they had, its a great ball - have thrown it pin above ring, and have shot 279's, etc..

Zilla - i have not thrown, but the stats and that core it has, it will be a great ball as well. I am not sure about the coverstock..
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Track Mean Machine (Heavy)
Lane #1 Dirty Bomb (Med-Heavy)
Track Machine (Medium)
Brunswick Original Inferno (Light-Med)
Track Desert Heat (Light)
Brunswick Ambush (Spare)

I throw it all, just give me a ball, I'll throw it. =]
Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 31, 2006, 09:23:56 PM: How about 4x4 for the passion?
Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: max revs on July 31, 2006, 09:28:51 PM: I had a paradigm and passion both drilled 4x4 and the paradigm hooked more. I didnt like the passion at all.
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Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: cnimsk on July 31, 2006, 09:30:16 PM: As mentioned earlier...Roto Grip's Epic Battle is a sweet bowling ball which takes to alterations of coverstock quite well.

Chuck
Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: Big Jake on July 31, 2006, 10:08:29 PM: Heres another vote for Roto Grip's Epic Battle!! probably the best ball I have thrown
Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: TWOHAND834 on July 31, 2006, 10:29:59 PM: I hate to tell you this, but you will get mixed reviews for just about every ball made. With all the people that come on here to express "opinions" you need to just make a decision and go with it. There is no such thing as a "bad" ball anymore. If you like the Strike Zone, but just want a little more hook on wetter conditions, get the Scorchin and be done with it. Dont take something that can be simple and make it difficult.

Eenie-meenie-miney-mo usually works well also.
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Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: Xfest on July 31, 2006, 10:41:23 PM: and on that passion - i meant paradigm. i have yet to try the "Passion" Paradigm.
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Track Mean Machine (Heavy)
Lane #1 Dirty Bomb (Med-Heavy)
Track Machine (Medium)
Brunswick Original Inferno (Light-Med)
Track Desert Heat (Light)
Brunswick Ambush (Spare)

I throw it all, just give me a ball, I'll throw it. =]
Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: Oskuposer on July 31, 2006, 10:47:06 PM: If you want a ball to hook in floods and not die i would have to go with the frankie may by visionary i have seen a few of them thrown and this ball makes out of bounds look playable.
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Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 31, 2006, 10:51:16 PM: Just a ball that outhooks the Strike Zone Oskuposer.
Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: some_kid on July 31, 2006, 10:55:19 PM: The most aggresive ball I've ever seen is the AMB particle. It probably wouldn't cover as many boards as the strike zone, but when the strike zone is skidding too far it will roll earlier. I use a columbia action for floods, but I have a lot of hand with softer speed. I don't have any personal experience with it, but the epic battle looks like a great flood ball.
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Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: bowlingmaniac017 on August 01, 2006, 12:04:10 AM: If he likes Brunswick... Wouldnt a Goliath at 500 or 600 work?
Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: BallsDeep on August 01, 2006, 11:02:33 AM: Don't mind people that throw certain companies out of the mix, all companies make good stuff, you just need to match it up properly with the lane condition you want to throw it on, and pick a good layout and surface grit.

Good asymetric options include:
The Infinite
The Awesome Hook
The Seek and Destroy
The Passion
The Battle
The Robo Rule

Symmetric:
The Scorchin'
The Ultimate
The Action Max
The Hawg Zilla
The Super Carbide Bomb

Others are out there, but these are the ones that I have seen in person and researched. I have the S&D, the AH, and the Scorchin'. While all options work, I would narrow down the possibilities by considering what type of reaction you want. The asymetrics can give many different looks due to the drilling options, but in general, each ball has characteristics to its own. The AH is probably the most angular of all the options present, being a strong asym designed to be a flippier versioon of the TS&A it really gets sideways. Others that I would put into the Angular class are the Action Max and the Hawg Zilla, while a bit smoother these balls are also excellent for swinging the lane.

The Scorchin, Ultimate, Passion, Infinite, S&D I would put into the strong arc category, if you want a versitile option where you can take it up the boards or inside, look here. The Scorchin is a more angular version of the UI. The others are oilers, with my favorite, as it is my favorite overall ball, being the S&D. Its great for oil as it is particle and yet still maintains angularity even though it has a very agressive roll phase.

The Carbide is considered by many to be the most agressive ball out there and heads off the Even rolling class that by process of elimination includes the Robo, and Battle. Great for playing up the boards and on sport patterns.

All are good just match it up to your game.
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Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: strikestriketapped on August 01, 2006, 12:41:07 PM: Well I kind of want to stay with asymmetrical because I love the reaction of my Strike Zone, which is asymmetrical. However, the Hawg Zilla looks good. I'm not too sure if my Strike Zone arcs or is angular. Whatever it is, I might want to try something different, not sure.
Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: strikestriketapped on August 01, 2006, 12:42:31 PM: Also BallsDeep (lol, great name)the Action Max looks very good. I just want to make sure that even with a strong layout and a good grit, that it will hook more than my Strike Zone.
Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: BallsDeep on August 01, 2006, 03:08:14 PM: I would consider the Strike to be more of a strong arcing ball. None of the Asyms ecept for perhaps the Red really get off the spot that hard. Most of them get down the lane and have a nice controllable hard arc. I would reccomend the S&D as it is particle it should offer a solution for heavier oil and the reaction should be similar. Not too many other particle balls can say this as they are more even. The upper flip cap vanguard cuts so hard on the back that this solid particle can get sideways to an extent.

The Max is the strongest ball in the Action series and should also match up very well. I don't know quite as much about the Max as some of the other balls, but it should offer a higher hook potential. I figured that the Action was a bit stronger than the Strike, so I'd have to imagine that the Max would be one step up.
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Title: Re: So hard to choose!
Post by: strikestriketapped on August 01, 2006, 03:14:29 PM: You know Balls, I think I might get the Scorchin' Inferno. Try a symmetrical ball for heavy.