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BenDover

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FROM EBONITE TECH STAFF CLEANING
« on: February 20, 2007, 08:15:19 AM »
Emailed Tech staff about proshops using the rejuvinators to get oil out of ball and restore it back . A rejuvinator is a machine that has a slow ball spinner inside of it and a heat light bulb.I have use one alot in the past and the oil comes right out of the ball.Usually takes three or four 15 minutes cycles until the ball finally comes out of the machine dry. BELOW IS THE EBONITE TECH STAFF RESPONSE.Ben,(Heat and light kills bowling balls.  Never use them.  It removes the reactive resins along with the oil so the ball hooks LESS.  Very bad idea.
 
I wouldn't worry too much about oil absorption until you have at least 100 games.  Until that point, your Ebonite PowerHouse cleaner will be fine.  Also, you could have your shop refresh the cover by sanding with 4000 grit Abralon and reapplying some Powerhouse Factory Finish polish.
 
About the soaking, Ebonite and Hammer neither condemn nor condone soaking but I've had lots of success with it.  Super hot tap water with a room temperature ball for 15 minutes and wash quick.  Every 100 games or so.  You don't need to do it more often than that.
 
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Richard Jacobson
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Re: FROM EBONITE TECH STAFF CLEANING
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2007, 09:44:49 AM »
For me, the fact remains that after baking my Ultimate Inferno in my home oven (lowest possible temp with the oven door open in 15 minute increments), I had to move 8 boards left to accomodate the bigger hook. Do I believe in easy baking, you bet!
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chitown

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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2007, 09:54:01 AM »
I have used the HOT WATER BATH method.  I have had great results with this.  Just grab a bucket, put ball into it, sit it under bath tub faucet and run the hot water until it turns cold.  This usually takes about 15 min.

With doing this the OIL floats to the top of the bucket and runs out.  The results of the hot water bath are incredible.  They really are.  The reaction on the ball come right back.
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Greg T

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Re: FROM EBONITE TECH STAFF CLEANING
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2007, 10:01:41 AM »
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I have used the HOT WATER BATH method.  I have had great results with this.  Just grab a bucket, put ball into it, sit it under bath tub faucet and run the hot water until it turns cold.  This usually takes about 15 min.

With doing this the OIL floats to the top of the bucket and runs out.  The results of the hot water bath are incredible.  They really are.  The reaction on the ball come right back.
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  Sometimes. I have a One, Angular One, Big One, Double excel, and a V2 Strong/r that beg to differ. Even the hook again and the track CPR refused to rejuvenate these balls.






                                 




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chitown

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Re: FROM EBONITE TECH STAFF CLEANING
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2007, 10:07:27 AM »
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 Sometimes. I have a One, Angular One, Big One, Double excel, and a V2 Strong/r that beg to differ. Even the hook again and the track CPR refused to rejuvenate these balls.


My NO MERCY is an oil absorbing ball.  I had great results using the hot water bath method with it.




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rackattack

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Re: FROM EBONITE TECH STAFF CLEANING
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2007, 10:13:46 AM »
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It's really quite simple in my eyes, the manufacturers who "frown" upon using a rejuvinator or revivor are the same companies who market thier own oil removal systems (hook again, CPR)..of course they are not going to support or promote another method as it would be counterproductive for them to do so.  


MoRich and Visionary also recommend the hot water method.They do not have any dry removal system on the market as far as I know.

 
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About the soaking, Ebonite and Hammer neither condemn nor condone soaking but I've had lots of success with it. Super hot tap water with a room temperature ball for 15 minutes and wash quick. Every 100 games or so. You don't need to do it more often than that.
 


This rep makes no mention of Ebonite's system in his reply.He doesn't seem to be "pushing" anything.He does offer his personal opinion though.

On edit here is MoRich's opinion. http://www.morichbowling.com/Products/Cleaning.htm
You will note it is strongly against the rejuvinator.

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Stan

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Re: FROM EBONITE TECH STAFF CLEANING
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2007, 10:37:40 AM »
If a heated light bulb can hurt your ball, then NEVER keep your equipment in your trunk of your car during the summer especially you folks that live in a warm climate all year round.  The temperture will get well over than of a rejuvinator.

I understand that coverstocks will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, but I have been using a rejuvinator since they hit the market and never had a problem with any ball regardless of manufacturer.

Use any method that you feel confident in.  

I do not believe anyone on this site can honestly say that their ball has 500+ games and it reactes like it did when it was new (unless it plastic).  You would need to throw the ball in a controlled environment when it was new, track the results and then perform the same test, same environment, and compare the results.  AND I do not mean you throwing the ball in your league.  Also, you should be close to hitting your target, maintaining the same speed and using the exact wrist action.

By the way, Brunswick recommends using the rejuvinator on all their balls.  Read the maintenance section of the layout sheet.
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Re: FROM EBONITE TECH STAFF CLEANING
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2007, 05:16:04 PM »
I was pretty sceptical of the entire hot water bath until the guy that has been helping coach me said I should give one to my Infinite One.  My wife and I were shocked how much dirt and oil you could see coming off the ball. I have a Storm Flash Flood, and my wife's back up Ebonite Tornado that are going to get baths soon.
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Poxy Boggard

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Re: FROM EBONITE TECH STAFF CLEANING
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2007, 06:15:26 PM »
The whole statement that heat ruins bowling balls is a crock!  If you are using HOT water in your bathing technique, that is still heating the ball.

I personally have used both the bath and my home oven to bring old equipment back from the grave.  I have to say that baking is by far the best technique.  It was the only way I could get a couple of old balls to hook again, tried the bath technique, and didn't see much of a difference. Tried the baking technique, and the balls came back to life.

Just my $.02
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Re: FROM EBONITE TECH STAFF CLEANING
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2007, 06:42:33 PM »
ANY REPUTABLE PROSHOP WILL RECOMEND THE REVIVOR AND GUARANTEE THE RESULTS.HEAT IS USED TO CREATE THE BALL ITSELF, NOW A PROVEN METHOD WITH FORCED CIRCULATED HEAT WILL RUIN YOUR BALL, I THINK NOT. I REALLY RESPECT RON STRITCLAND, BUT I'VE DONE TOO MANY OF HIS OIL ABSORBING BALLS AND BROUGHT THEM BACK TO NEW REACTION USING MY REVIVOR AND I WILL GUARANTEE THE RESULTS!!! OOPS, DID I JUST HURT BALL SALES BY SAYING THAT?
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HAMMERDOWN103

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Re: FROM EBONITE TECH STAFF CLEANING
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2007, 10:52:26 PM »
Just finished my first try with the hot water bath in the bath tub and there was a noticeable tackiness to the ball. Also didnt have a big enough bucket so i rotated the ball a bit and could feel and see the oil coming out of the ball. Im just worried that if this thing hooks like new ill have to play way inside tomorrow night! Ill reply back to see if i could see a change in hook...
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Re: FROM EBONITE TECH STAFF CLEANING
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2007, 08:41:38 AM »
I have used the Hot water bath and short cycle dishwasher with much success. Only ball i replaced in the last 4 years is my Junlge Predator and that is cause some idiot left it out in the cold and it cracked. hmmm wonder who that was.  Besides that i have had no problem, i do it once a year to all the balls that needs it and bam they are like new.
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Re: FROM EBONITE TECH STAFF CLEANING
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2007, 10:50:00 AM »
...just to add to the thread...

I pulled an old beuty out this week to test the bathing thoery.
The bathing technique worked like a charm on my Apex Aggression, a KNOWN soaker - and it was COMPLETELY dead, in the basement never to be used again...
Shot 639 with it afterwards - and I'm averaging 185 this season.

The ball has pop on the backend again! No more 10-pins.
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