Author Topic: Magic vs. Bounty (Read 3738 times)

justink · « **on:** March 30, 2009, 07:43:43 AM »

These are the two balls that I have narrowed my next purchase down to. I am wondering if any of you have any experience or insite in how they might compare? I am really looking for something with early roll and will be using this in sport leagues and tournaments. I think the Bounty fits this bill better, but I just keep thinking about the Magic and it's new coverstock that lasts longer than other recent pieces. Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
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trynabbest · « **Reply #1 on:** March 30, 2009, 03:50:13 PM »

ive never thrown the bounty but i threw the magic a couple games and from my impression its pretty long. now im sure it can be drilled to move earlier but it seems its nature is more long and strong, i was standing all the way left and tossin across the lane and it went 45(guessing) feet and screamed back. it resembles a more skid flip. now its a great ball and probably takes to surface changes but you may be better of with the bounty. it seems that was more suited for early even roll

toomanytenpins · « **Reply #2 on:** March 30, 2009, 05:16:27 PM »

the magic is really long .mine is set up 4 inches pin under ring and its 45 to 50 feet before it turns nothing early at all about it.
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charlest · « **Reply #3 on:** March 30, 2009, 07:00:19 PM »

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... but I just keep thinking about the Magic and it's new coverstock that lasts longer than other recent pieces. ..
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I think the proper phrase might be:
"It lasts longer than other Ebonite made pieces."

Since the Bounty's stock surface is 1000 Abralon and the Magic's is 4000 Abralon, you might consider finding someone to put them both at the same finish level and do that comparison. There might be a real or more significant difference between these balls.
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Edited on 3/30/2009 7:02 PM

EboHammer · « **Reply #4 on:** March 30, 2009, 09:32:17 PM »

I drilled a Magic with a Rico drilling for my wife, it is very early and strong with that drilling.

tizzle · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2009, 08:18:06 AM »

yeah the magic by nature is designed to go long. You can make it sooner by putting the proper drilling on it, but in nature the bounty will be much earlier then the the magic.
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justink · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2009, 02:08:29 PM »

I think I have decided that anything with a pearl additive in the coverstock is not going to work. I have something in the long and strong spot now, actually kindof crowded. I want something that is as early as possible and a solid coverstock, very strong, I don't have a strong solid and I want one. So I have marked the Magic off the list and put in a Morich LevRG or Ntense LevRG, but the Bounty remains. Gotta make a decision soon, it's not too often anymore the little lady gives me the go ahead on a new ball purchase.
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LaneHammer20 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2009, 03:45:41 PM »

Well if you want early strong oil ball, you should get the AMF Mega Friction.

That ball is going to be earlier and hook more than any balls mentioned. And not a bad price tag to boot.

Others will second this notion. Don't be afraid of AMF they are maing awesome equipment under 900's belt.
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justink · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2009, 04:24:53 PM »

I appreciate all of your help, I have widened the search a little but I have kept it down to:

Morich Ntense LevRG: Have read very good reviews, including how well it carries. But I understand it is extremely drill specific.

900 Global Bounty: Have read some very nice reviews here as well. Early hook with high carry percentage. I started bowling with Dynothane and have been watching 900 global very close since the changes made.

AMF Mega Friction: Don't know much about this ball, the reviews I have read say it flat out hooks, but watch your missed releases not very forgiving and I'm not the most consistent bowler.

So it's kindof up in the air.
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LaneHammer20 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2009, 04:38:05 PM »

Well if you are talking about not being consistent with your release then I would put Morich out of the door, anyone I have talked to that has thrown any of the Morich's they have always said that forgiveness is not their strong point. adn you are going to have to dealing with a hit or miss drill sensitivity.

I have Code, which has the same core as the Mega Friction, my code whether it be the core or the cover, either way it is very forgiving on missed hits in your swing. That ball is in my top 3 favorites ever, and don't see that changing.

I think you would suit best with either the Bounty or the Mega Friction for a forgiving ball that is going to be good for heavy oil. The Mega is going to do more moving in the oil though.

My vote is for the Mega, I think you will really get what you want out of that ball.

I have not seen what you have said about it being unforgiving.

I have just seen in your profile that you have a pretty low track, on the spinner side of things.

1- spinners nightmare is heavier oil, their relase prefers drier conditions, so you are going to need a ball that has some junk in it's trunk to make some moves on the slick stuff.

2- That is the Mega Friction's strong point.

Nuff said
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justink · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2009, 05:00:12 PM »

I should probably update my profile. I have done allot of work to release the ball sooner and have got my PAP back out to about 4.5" with 0"up. I used to be at a 5" 0"up, but I think in the middle of the two is about where I am now. But you are right heavier oil is my nightmare, although anymore extreme dry can be just as annoying. I just really want something that is going to hook, here recently I went to a tournament and I did not have the right equipment. The first set I was fine, then we switched and the next pair made me feel like the biggest hooking wimp.

So I am gonna have to take a close look at the Mega Friction. I'll do some looking tonight.
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charlest · « **Reply #11 on:** April 01, 2009, 10:33:50 AM »

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I think I have decided that anything with a pearl additive in the coverstock is not going to work. I have something in the long and strong spot now, actually kindof crowded. I want something that is as early as possible and a solid coverstock, very strong, I don't have a strong solid and I want one. So I have marked the Magic off the list and put in a Morich LevRG or Ntense LevRG, but the Bounty remains. Gotta make a decision soon, it's not too often anymore the little lady gives me the go ahead on a new ball purchase.
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You do know that the Ntense is 100% pearl?
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LaneHammer20 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 01, 2009, 10:53:01 AM »

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You do know that the Ntense is 100% pearl?

Correct, i thought it might be a particle pearl.

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i have heard the mega is a particle ball, i have had better luck in heavy oil with strong reactive covers with 500 to 1000 abralon, prticle covers seem to hit like a turd for me, unless the backends are very clean. jmo.

this is something that makes me scratch my head. I have never had that kind of problem with any particles I have had. They seem to work great on fresh backends, and work better than Solid's once carrydown is present.

Lanemasters still uses particle in about all of their oil balls.

I Know others have their own opinons, but what he is asking for, the mega will give him.
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LaneHammer20 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 01, 2009, 12:37:41 PM »

I can understand where you are coming from.

To each his own. I deal with a house that puts out a pretty good volume of oil, along with carrydown from the night before. All my pearls the first game just skate and skate and skate, even my semi strong solid reactives. My balls that move right nowm but i have to play pretty starit with maybe a slight tight swing is my strong drilled pin down Dimension or my pin in ring AMF Heist.

I can play the whole 3 games with my Heist with small movements, Dimension makes it 2 games max then it it's carrys suffers.

I wish I had a particle right now to try on this pattern to see how it works.

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justink · « **Reply #14 on:** April 01, 2009, 04:37:55 PM »

I do know the Ntense is a pearl, which begs the answer to how do they produce that much hook with a pearl additive???

I have a couple particles and I really can't complain about the ones I have. They are all Lane Masters and the AP2 can really move on a medium house shot, I play mostly down-and-in-ish and that ball won't go there on a medium house shot, likes to be swung. It isn't the best on heavy shots either, so it works just not my favorite. Lane Masters balls have always carried vary well for me. But it's like my teammate said if we could pair my carry with his consistency we'd be good.

But anyway, I bought a Bounty today, just decided to go back to 900 global. Plus I really had to look at how often I am actually going to see what the Mega Friction would work well for. I may see it in this sport shot league allot this summer, but otherwise it's not going to happen all that often. If what the Bounty has to offer drilled aggressively isn't enough then I need to get some serious help. I thank you all for your help, this post has been one of the most useful I have ever had. Gonna have to post something about other brands in Ebonite's area more often, just kidding. Didn't mean for it to go that at the start.
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