My arsenal consist of two TNVs right now, one I keep shinned up for a little dryer conditions, but the other I have dulled up on the 1500 pad and that is the ball I use on about every thing I face up on. It is stacked up but with the pin close to the track, so it gets down the lane, but being dulled up I don't get the jerk reaction out of it, more of a nice even arc.