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Poxy Boggard

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TNV Vs. Black Widow
« on: February 12, 2007, 05:37:07 AM »
Been considering geting a new ball, and these are on the top of the possible choices.  THe last time I bought a new ball I made an impulse buy of the Scorchin Inferno, and I have not been very happy with this ball.

I am looking for a ball with a maonsterous back end.  So for those of you out there who have both or have shot with both, which do you think is a better ball, which one has more back end?

Any input will be greatly appreciated.

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BenDover

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Re: TNV Vs. Black Widow
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2007, 01:51:42 PM »
I am also looking into buying a new ball. I have been looking into getting the Total NV, Angular or No Mercy. Waiting to get more imput on these balls before i make a decision.I am on a medium to heavy oil pattern and need a ball that can make it back to the pocket. Currently using infinate one and the one. Infinate one has died even after serveral rejuvs and resurfaces.Any imput would be appriecated
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azguy

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Re: TNV Vs. Black Widow
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2007, 02:17:50 PM »
After speaking with an ex-pro today, I was told the Total NV was more 'angular' than the Angular One, more midlane than the No Mercy, but the No Mercy had more backend punch. Some is hard to explain, we took a while on the phone for me to catch on, but that's what I was told. I believe her, trust her so take it for what it's worth.

That said, she knows how I bowl and said the No Mercy is the best FOR ME...not knocking any of the balls, just the way it is.
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dballz

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Re: TNV Vs. Black Widow
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2007, 02:19:45 PM »
Poxy, i have both and like them a lot. the only thing is, that i have a different drilling in each one. the bw is a 90* layout with a 4 1/2"pin above fingers and this ball reads the midlanes great. i can either circle the pattern or can go down the boards to give it a little more pop in the back. the total nv has one of those trick layouts to where the ball really gets down lane and makes a strong roll(not flip)off the breakpoint. obviously if there is heavy oil, the total nv is probably going to go way too long for me. it really all depends on if you want a ball for medium/heavy or just medium. you can tweak the surface on each ball, but then if you put a surface on the total nv, you will be getting a ball that wants to read a little sooner. hope this helps.

BenDover, if you are looking for something to replace your infinite one, then i would probably go with a no mercy. i have never thrown one, but hear it is a decent ball. you can tweak the surface so that it can read either a little sooner or a little later. IMO, the angular one and total nv may go too long in the heavier patterns and such. good luck to the both of you...

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chitown

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Re: TNV Vs. Black Widow
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2007, 02:40:34 PM »
Thetotal NV looks to be a smooth reacting ball.  I have heard that this type of coverstock is the future.  They say this ball is more consistant than the oil absorbing covers.
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tricky

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Re: TNV Vs. Black Widow
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2007, 07:38:08 AM »
I use the the Angular One and the No Mercy with the #1 drilling. My experience with the A-One at 2000 has been great med-heavy very predictable and great carry. This was my first week at 2000 and shot 795 my highest series to date. Even when the lanes dried I was able to keep this ball in play and continue to carry. Yes I did blow a 300 in the 11th of game 3.
The No Mercy has been a very good ball for me, however, it is extremely high maintain if the ball is not bathed each week the carry really suffers. I do bowl 3x's a week and this ball grimes up quickly, but when it's on it's great. This ball is in original finish and handles a good amount of oil but not as much as the Angular One at 2000.
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jk009

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Re: TNV Vs. Black Widow
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2007, 07:58:24 AM »
Well, I am looking at a different comparison, but similar...How would the TnV compare with the Black Widow?  As I see the TNV is more angular the the Angular One.
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Xfest

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Re: TNV Vs. Black Widow
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2007, 10:50:38 AM »
Compared to my Black Widow - the Total NV covers about 6-7 boards more than the BW does. The ball is alot stronger than the Black Widow as my Widow I usually play straight up the boards with. The Total NV will start its roll sooner than the BW and get more Overall Hook throughout the lane.

The Total NV definatly has the more back end between the two. But if you are looking for something smoother, the Black Widow would be your ball.
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jk009

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Re: TNV Vs. Black Widow
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2007, 06:03:04 PM »
Oh, what lane conditions does the TNV really work well with?
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Xfest

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Re: TNV Vs. Black Widow
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2007, 07:18:14 PM »
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Oh, what lane conditions does the TNV really work well with?
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I've played in heavy with it and it was beautiful. Its basically a Medium-Heavy type of ball. I haven't gone with surface adjustments because I am loving the reaction I am getting as of now.

So Medium to Heavy conditions. I haven't seen a lighter condition in a year. haha
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Big Jake

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Re: TNV Vs. Black Widow
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2007, 07:28:00 PM »
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Been considering getting a new ball...


me too, again. HELP!! someone stop the madness

Well, anyway, since reading all of these post about the TNV I sure wouldn't mind picking one up. Right now I'm totally loving my "No Mercy and Infinite One" combo, quite deadly ya know

And I know this might sound weird on this board here BUT I truly believe that the Angular One was not what it was made out to be I mean at all but that is IMHO a good ball yes but for me I would rather throw the No Mercy.

So having said that it appears that the TNV is what I would be looking for...can't wait!
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Xfest

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Re: TNV Vs. Black Widow
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2007, 03:40:47 PM »
With the proper drilling on the Angular, you will get pretty good results for the "angular" move you were wanting to see. Some people the ball starts fairly early, and hooks more throughout the lane and is not so "angular".

But IMO the Total NV off of its breakpoint, is more angular than the Angular One by a mile.
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Big Jake

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Re: TNV Vs. Black Widow
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2007, 05:13:52 PM »
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But IMO the Total NV off of its breakpoint, is more angular than the Angular One by a mile.


Sounds good to me! I just put my order in a little while ago for my TNV
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