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agroves

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Tossed The One
« on: February 03, 2006, 06:08:45 PM »
Today I was pot bowling with some guys from league.  One of the guys buys new stuff weekly it seems.  Storm Paradigm, The One, Vapor Zone, Action....

Our spans were fairly close, so I asked to toss his The One.  It was drilled pin under ring, which makes it about 4 1/2" from my pap, with the mb 1 1/2" right of my thumb.  OOB finish.

I don't see what the fuss is all about.  On carrydown, it didn't do anything.  Skid city, this was after a league got off the lanes.  I used his Vapor Zone, drilled pin next to ring, about 4" from my pap, psa near the val.  The Vapor made The One look flat tame.  

He used it(the one) when the VZ started to overhook.  

On fresh backends, it still didn't hook as much as I thought it would.  

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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2006, 05:41:15 AM »
Andrew,

What other ball that you know of when finished at 4000 grit Plus a coat of polish on it would handle carrydown?
Why would you think such a ball would handle carrydown?

From what I have seen the true promise of The One is its versatility. It SEEMS that no matter how you drill it (although 99% appear to be drilled strong) the cover change makes it work to almost any amount of oil, when your release and the cover match the oil pattern, of course.

Now I haven't decided about the One, because I am concerned about the longevity issue, but if you have the right cover, this ball seems to perform wonders. The hit is almost always surprisingly powerful. If only EVERYTHING about it weren't so new and unpredictable ...
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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2006, 05:52:53 AM »
http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=111785&ForumID=5&CategoryID=2

You'll have to change your preferences of course, but you'll see there are some that say it "ignores" it.

While I agree, it should squirt with that finish, I still wasn't impressed with fresh backends.  The VZ and my Rampage looked much better, for me anyway.  

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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2006, 06:05:38 AM »
quote:
http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=111785&ForumID=5&CategoryID=2

You'll have to change your preferences of course, but you'll see there are some that say it "ignores" it.


C'mon. You know better. Some of what some, actually most of what some people say here has to be taken with a pound of salt. The OOB surface is for medium to medium light oil in most people's hands. It seems to take to surface changes as well as any other ball I've seen. This comments are always: so far.

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While I agree, it should squirt with that finish, I still wasn't impressed with fresh backends.  The VZ and my Rampage looked much better, for me anyway.  

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That's always possible. I've just pointed out what I've seen. I have NOT seen it being more powerful than all other balls, just powerful enough to be considered, POTENTIALLY, a great ball.
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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2006, 06:12:39 AM »
I know what you're saying, just had to see it with my own eyes.

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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2006, 06:26:27 AM »
Andrew--All have said it but surface adjustments with this ball are of prime importance.  

I get one look with the OOB finish vs. a large change with 1000 abralon.  2000 abralon is how I have it now.  Seems for me on the lane conditions I see is about right.

I think you might be selling the ball short.
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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2006, 07:58:49 AM »
I finally got to toss mine in league on friday.  Pin about the finger, cg upper part of palm, mb kicked out a little, and the surface about 3500.  The one is definitely not for carry down in the oob surface.  It works best if you bounce it off the dry. I got this ball used from warriorsyles.  I'm not sure how many games he put on it but due to the recent postings of ball death I decide to put 3 coats of magic elixir...compared to when I practiced with it and during league the magic elixir doubled the backend reaction.  I couldn't use it for more than 1 game.  So far I'm really impressed.
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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2006, 09:45:09 AM »
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With my One I finally found a condition it didn't work on. I practiced after a senior league yesterday when there was a lot of carrydown. My One is in OOB condition. I threw the fifst ball down and it went straight. I couldn't believe it. I kept moving right until I could hit the pocket and it wouldn't carry very well because it wasn't finishing strong enough. I was throwing up first arrow and couldn't carry a ten pin. I shoot 165 and then 195. I switched to my Arsenal Reactive throw the same line and shoot 279, and then 300. The ball wasn't hooking much more but carried everything. I haven't tried sanding the One yet, I was afraid if I did I would lose the good backend reaction is has when there is some backend.


Thus, exactly the point we've been making in all the above posts.

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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2006, 11:34:03 PM »
When I got my one. I had the surface taken down to 1000 matte finish. 1st night with it the hook was outrageous. 35-5 and still going brook on a 38' ths. Through out the week it has tamed down a bit but its still my biggest hooker in the bag Since i have been using it. the hook tamed down about 10 boards total as i expected. I wouldnt call this ball a skid/flip ball more as strong arching. As for carry down, I can get about half way through 3rd game before I start to notice the ball hesitating to hook. So it does delay carry down effects by about 5-7 frames, it does not completely ignore carry down. No ball ever will. I love the ball! Ebonite gained a new fan here.
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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2006, 05:00:43 PM »
i am watching t j and pa shoot the one same pattern lefty versus righty and if u didnt look at the ball you wouldnt believe they were using the same ball, although anything tj throws hooks like a horseshoe i dont think i could buy a ball based on how he thorws it, but he is making it look awesome

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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2006, 10:43:14 PM »
With the two drills you described, I'm not surpised.  But you also dont' tell us what part of the lane you were playing.  I can get The One to skid for days if I just play the wrong part of the lane.  Plus you dont' tell us if The One you used was in box condition, if it was...how many games were on it.  

Man! you threw a ball not drilled for you.  Probably not layed out for your style and you may or maynot have played the right part of the lane for the ball.  Plus you have no idea what cover condition the ball was in. We dont' even know if you played the Vapor Zone and The One in the same part of the lane do we?  

And you want to dish one ball over another?  Come on!

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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2006, 11:52:25 PM »
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With the two drills you described, I'm not surpised.  But you also dont' tell us what part of the lane you were playing.  I can get The One to skid for days if I just play the wrong part of the lane.  Plus you dont' tell us if The One you used was in box condition, if it was...how many games were on it.  

Man! you threw a ball not drilled for you.  Probably not layed out for your style and you may or maynot have played the right part of the lane for the ball.  Plus you have no idea what cover condition the ball was in. We dont' even know if you played the Vapor Zone and The One in the same part of the lane do we?  

And you want to dish one ball over another?  Come on!

Erin


Simmer down, you are taking this wayyy to personal.  Same "part" of the lane, inside 20-13.  No it wasn't drilled for my stats, but I gave the pin to pap measurements as if it WERE my stats.  Please reread the post, it states OOB finish on The One, same with the VZ.  

Please explain how I can dish a ball?  With a Fork perhaps?

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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2006, 07:42:05 PM »
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very hard to believe your story.


Wow, could you please elaborate what is so hard to believe?  

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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2006, 07:54:41 PM »
I don't have one of these balls and am not planing on getting one but I did notice tonight in league there sure were a lot of them being used. I can't help but think that PA wishes he had stayed with Hammer he certainly didn't bowl well with the one just my personal observation not cutting Ebonite down
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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2006, 08:06:52 PM »
The pro shop operator where I bowl has one----no pun intended,lol----and as long as I've been around bowling I've never seen a ball come back from angles like this ball. He subbed for my Wednesday night team last week and was carrying shots that I didn't think had a chance of taking out the ten pin. It's all backend with this ball. When it makes the turn it simply goes through the pin deck as though the pins aren't even there..........
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