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Juggernaut

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Total NV- performance loss?
« on: April 18, 2007, 01:01:52 PM »
Friend of mine has two of these and bot h of them seem to have begun to lose some of their performance.

  He is a big ebonite fan ( has basically ALL the one series with multiples of some of them ) with 2 total nv's and a regular nv on the way.

  His angular one hasn't seemed to suffer any loss of performance.  When he drilled the nv's, they would out hook and out hit the angular one by a noticeable amount, but now the angular will out perform either one of the nv's.

  He works in the pro shop, so his stuff is cleaned and maintained religiously, so is the problem that they just need to be run through the "hook again" or is there some bigger problem?

  Anybody got any answers?
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Re: Total NV- performance loss?
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2007, 09:14:01 PM »
when i had my tnv, which im getting back, i took the surface down by hand lightly with a green scotch brite pad, and it seemed to bring the ball back to life, obviously it changed the surface but it made it react very nicely...from wut ive been told you should take the surface down and then back up again to the oob or wutever surface u had it at
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Re: Total NV- performance loss?
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2007, 11:32:25 PM »
Has he kept the surfaces polished?
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Re: Total NV- performance loss?
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2007, 11:21:04 AM »
I am having the same problem with my TNV. I clean it religiously and it no longer has the pop that it used to have. I have had it at 1200 grit since I drilled it and have made no alterations to the surface since. Would sanding it down to 320 and slowly bring it back up help at all? Or like Juggernaut had asked does the ball need some form of hook again treatment?
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Re: Total NV- performance loss?
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2007, 11:56:02 AM »
Ebonite's process says to start 2 grits below where you have it and work it back up to that finsih. SO if you have it at 1200 start using 800 and take it up to 1200 again. I wouldn't be afraid to start it at 600.
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Re: Total NV- performance loss?
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2007, 10:46:20 PM »
If it were me I would take the ball down to 400 grit, then get the oil out of the ball either through hot water or in the oven, then polish the ball back up. I recently did this to a ball of mine and it came out looking and performing like new.
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Re: Total NV- performance loss?
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2007, 11:56:40 PM »
i have a total nv and the center i bowl at the other few ppl who own an nv say the same thing that its lost all its hook etc....but mine is still hooking just as good as ever, some people buy a ball and dont consider that every single time that the ball goes down the lane it sucks all kinds of oil right into your track, if you are a consistant bowler and you have all that oil in your track its not gonna perform the same!!! here is what i did with my nv, i am pretty close with the owner of the proshop, i had him take a wet 1000 grit abralon pad on a ball spinner, then shine it up with track polish, but the key to that is if you are gonna shine a ball up you have to know what you are doing or your wasting your time, you have to apply alots of pressure while its on spinner, it will get the ball nice and hot !!! thats what will get your ball back to that tacky out of the box feel...
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Re: Total NV- performance loss?
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2007, 08:24:58 PM »
I have about 35 games on mine and it hooks more than it ever has. I clean mine with simple green when I get home and polish it every week.
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Re: Total NV- performance loss?
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2007, 09:15:48 PM »
You guys are really altering the ball if you are going to 1000, the ball comes at 4000 with polish!
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Re: Total NV- performance loss?
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2007, 10:21:12 PM »
My friend's TNV did the same thing, at first it would out hook anything and now it doesnt do anything at all and it only has about 50 games on it. WOW another Ebonite cover that just ups and dies

way to go Ebonite on another crap cover!!!
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Re: Total NV- performance loss?
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2007, 03:44:12 PM »
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My friend's TNV did the same thing, at first it would out hook anything and now it doesnt do anything at all and it only has about 50 games on it. WOW another Ebonite cover that just ups and dies

way to go Ebonite on another crap cover!!!
 



These are the kind of statements that start things in a negative fashion. I have two Total NVs...each with minimum 70 games and I have not seen a loss in reaction at all. I keep them clean and I keep the cover with the OOB "gloss" that it should have. If your ball is starting to get a track in it odds are the polish is wearing off and that can make a ball roll sooner and have less movement in the backend.

I have only one comment......If this is a "crap" cover then I cannot wait to see what a great coverstock would do.

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Re: Total NV- performance loss?
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2007, 03:50:34 PM »
Good post, Carl.  I'm of the opinion that many people who claim to take "good care" of their equipment do no such thing.  Especially when it comes to a ball that comes in a polished state, that stuff wears off, ya know, and that really can change the reaction!  ESPECIALLY when it comes to backend reaction!
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Re: Total NV- performance loss?
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2007, 04:20:51 PM »
I have a Total Nv with over 100 games on it.It is still as strong as brand new.I clean if after every use with energizer cleaner.This is one awesome ball.You just have to keep up with the maintainence.I will say if you see it loose performance just give it a hot water bath and you will be fine.
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Re: Total NV- performance loss?
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2007, 09:28:27 PM »
I clean mine after every set with it and then hit it with polish after about 30 games and it just seems to keep getting stronger and stronger I love this ball in my view this is one of the best pieces of equipment to have come out in a long time and if you read my signature you will know which company I favor but this new TNV is quickly becoming one of my most favorites
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Re: Total NV- performance loss?
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2007, 08:06:29 AM »
Per the original clinics Ebonite did with this ball.  Once it starts to loose some performance (and it will) give it a hot water bath.  2 periods of 15 minutes each wiping the ball off and changing to fresh water between both periods.  Normally about the 50 game mark, some may be sooner depending on how heavy an oil pattern your houses use.  Once you get 100 games do the hook again.  It doesn't hurt it to do the hot water in between the first time you do it and the hook again either if you feel it needs it.  I also resurface both of mine about every 20 games and I have over 100 on the clinic ball and over 50 on the second one.  Still hook fine and hit like a train.

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