Author Topic: which layout for most backend on tnv? (Read 4732 times)

urbanshaft · « **on:** March 07, 2007, 04:37:12 PM »

i just got my tnv in my very first ebonite ball and damn its sexy.gona drill it tomorow just wondering which layout will have the best backend snap and still prety strong in oil.im thinking layout #1.

urbanshaft · « **Reply #1 on:** March 08, 2007, 01:27:30 AM »

u got the wrong guy

Cbjdc · « **Reply #2 on:** March 08, 2007, 08:36:41 AM »

tj layout. It will have an odd layout but the ball offers the most backend.

Gene J Kanak · « **Reply #3 on:** March 08, 2007, 08:43:25 AM »

Just be careful if you decide to use the TJ or "trick" layout; I've heard that it makes the ball push way, way, way down the lane. If you want to be able to use the ball in some oil, that may be more length than you're looking for. I'm not saying that it won't work for you, but you should definitely keep that fact in your mind before deciding.
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Greg T · « **Reply #4 on:** March 08, 2007, 08:53:43 AM »

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tj layout. It will have an odd layout but the ball offers the most backend.

If you throw like TJ you can drill like TJ to TAME the backend and push further downlane. If you don't throw like TJ dont use his layout.

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Kinalyx · « **Reply #5 on:** March 08, 2007, 10:53:03 AM »

My first TNV is a TJ layout. While i dont throw the ball like TJ, i DID know that this was not going to be a big hooking ball, & that it was going to have a more mild backend compared to other TNV drills.

With that being said, my TNV covers quite a few boards, but it has to hit dry b4 it even starts to get into a roll for me, & i have a decent amount of hand. As far as a TNV with TONS of snap, i think drilling #1 is probably the best without knowing your game.

BTW, ive got a 2nd TNV at the shop right now, it will be drilling #1 with a stronger MB.

Shawn

urbanshaft · « **Reply #6 on:** March 08, 2007, 08:36:23 PM »

so i went to my driler to drill this thing today.and we were shocked the mb on this ball was so far right he told me that no drilling would work(left handed).but i said think of something and so he drilled it kinda like the jason couche drilling(i dont have high revs either)and my mb is right by my thumb and the cg is hella way up to the left.the ball gos long and snaps but doesnt hook nearly enouph as hopeing.first ebonite ball and its ruined

Greg T · « **Reply #7 on:** March 08, 2007, 09:01:19 PM »

Time to get a new driller. Any MB/CG position can be drilled very effectively. It's the mass bias you're concerned with and not the CG. The CG is off line. Not the MB. If the cg is off line to left you may need a weight hole to compensate. If it's off to the right it will be in your palm. Whats the problem? If your driller is telling you the MB is off line, fire him and find someone who knows about today's equipment. And the reason the ball doesnt hook is becuae he put the layout on it the Ebo says right in the drill sheet NOT to use. The guy owes you a ball.

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urbanshaft · « **Reply #8 on:** March 08, 2007, 09:56:40 PM »

the mb was 4+ inches to the right of my cg atleast (befored drilled).and if we wanted to have the mb at 40-70 deg then the cg woulda had to of been above my fingers.would that still have worked?he told me this was 1 of those balls u throw away since the mb was so messed up

Kinalyx · « **Reply #9 on:** March 08, 2007, 10:54:24 PM »

2 things he could have done

1, drill it the way u wanted it drill, & add a massive weight hole if needed

2, since the CG is way off to the left, thats perfect for a really strong drilling for a right handed bowler, he could have swapped balls with you & given u a better placed CG for your drill pattern.

Basically, hes a moron, id be pissed off

Shawn

urbanshaft · « **Reply #10 on:** March 08, 2007, 11:18:50 PM »

my weird ball 0 0
wack CG> o

the crazy MB>o0

thats basicaly what the ball looks like but the cg is higher up.and he placed a balance hole on the cg.and i ordered the ball off buddies(which ill never do again) and he doesnt have any tnvs in the shop

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urbanshaft · « **Reply #11 on:** March 09, 2007, 01:15:08 AM »

to bad im not a right hander

CoachJim · « **Reply #12 on:** March 09, 2007, 03:37:53 AM »

In the drilling instructions it tells you how to drill these balls with the cg off line like that. It says drill the finger holes deeper (if the cg is above the midline and the thumb deeper if it is below). Then drill the weight hole where the drilling instructions call for it for what ever layout you use.

You could and should have sent it back, Buddies has always been good about taking back anything the customer is not happy with.

Cobalt Bomb · « **Reply #13 on:** March 09, 2007, 04:57:11 AM »

Next time, if you get a ball like that, offer to trade it here, or sell it on e-bay, with a pic of the pin-cg-mb. Ones with an alignment like that always get more money, because RH bowlers dont have to use a weight hole for most drillings. I know I have TNV's with cgs good for LH bowlers I would gladly have traded.

urbanshaft · « **Reply #14 on:** March 09, 2007, 12:57:35 PM »

hmmm damnit,loooks like i ned to add 200 rpms and be like jason couche to use this thing.hopefully it works

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