Author Topic: Will polishing the Big One make it uncontrollable? (Read 3297 times)

splendorlex · « **on:** April 12, 2006, 12:12:41 AM »

I'd like to get a little more length out of the ball for a fresh medium shot, but I'm worried that if I apply some polish it'll make the already strong breakpoint TOO strong. Should I perhaps alter the surface and then add a coat of polish to try and smooth out the reaction a little? Or should I just ignore the ball and use it only for the first few frames, which is what I'm looking at now. It's drilled pin under ring, the mb is to the right of the thumb, and there is a weight hole at a 45 degree angle from the thumb.

802dave · « **Reply #1 on:** April 12, 2006, 08:27:56 AM »

Splendorex,

I thought you had the right idea the other day when you were looking at adding a control ball. The Big One is a very strong ball and is for medium to heavy oil; it fits your profile pretty well - quick-revving and high-flaring. More surface rather than a polished surface should work better for your profile. The more you polish it up, the more variation you will get in its reaction - moving away from control there.

You're searching for results and, equipment-wise, consistent results will come from a more controllable, consistent reaction.

For the most satisfying results though, you need months and years of practice, good coaching, and you need to develop a strong mental game. You can spend beaucoup dollars and a lot of time playing with new equipment and you'll never get the results you're looking for - unless you tend to your physical and mental game needs first!

There are no short cuts to physical, conscious, and subconscious competence!
Dave

802dave · « **Reply #2 on:** April 12, 2006, 08:43:50 AM »

One more thing to consider; there have been a couple of very good threads the past couple days about "heavy oil hype"...

People are buying stronger and stronger balls looking for that one ball that'll have them shooting the honor scores. However, the stronger equipment is not reacting the way you hope they will. Why? Because, there's just not as much oil on your THS as you may be thinking. Milder, more moderately-priced equipment many times reacts much more on THS's (then the state of the art...) because they're not burning up in the heads and midlane. The milder balls conserve more energy and will have more pop in the backend; if they're too squirrelly, then dull the surface a little till you get the desired reaction.

So when your proshop guy tries to steer you towards a milder-reacting ball than what you think you need, that's the time to have him explain his reasoning; use his experience! He knows the THS at your house and have him watch you; he'll know what will match up better for you and probably can save you some money too! If you don't trust him, find one that is respected in your area.

While I'm at it, you should be able to use a ball - one ball - for your entire league night. Learn to make 1-1, 2-1, adjustments as the lanes transition. Now if you chose the wrong ball to start out and you figure that out, then change, but planning to change balls as a first adjustment can get expensive!

Dave

splendorlex · « **Reply #3 on:** April 12, 2006, 08:55:22 AM »

Dave,

That's what I've come to realize as well. I won my NCAA bracket at work, and I plan to perhaps buy one last ball, and make it more of an inbetween, milder ball. I did get a little hung up on the hype. Thankfully, the Big One I didn't have to buy, I won it in a raffle. I can see it's a great ball, just that it might not be that usable until I find heavier oil when I bowl in tournaments, which I do. This is also why I made a separate post about looking for a control ball. I've made some great strides as far as getting my speed in line, so I'm confident that I can have success with a ball that doesn't have to have a lot of surface and a low RG as I thought before. Here is what I have now:

Big One
V2 Power
Vendetta Sniper
Uturn Pearl
Smokin Inferno

The sniper is a good ball, but acts a little funny for me on a fresh pattern. I think the fresh gives it a bit too much skid for consistency in the back end. The V2 Power is great on the fresh, but becomes uncontrollable as the night wears on. The Big One is similar to the V2, but even stronger, and loses use even sooner. The Smokin' I have yet to have a lot of success with, as it seems too much on the squirty side for me. The ball I've probably had the most success with is the Uturn, but I can't really get the ball to do what I want until the oil dries up a bit. So now what I plan on doing is getting something similar to the Uturn but stronger, and I hope to get something that I can have be the ONLY ball in my bag, and use it all summer. The Doom is coming to mind, but beyond that I'm kind of lost.

802dave · « **Reply #4 on:** April 12, 2006, 09:02:24 AM »

I recently bought a used The One and would like to add another One; keep one at 2000 grit and the other at 1000 grit or so.

You might think about something like that - add another U-turn, Sniper, or V2 Power and have two different surfaces... Or have a One and a Big One; similar balls - one stronger than the other.

Dave

Leftyhi-trak · « **Reply #5 on:** April 12, 2006, 05:03:21 PM »

Cut out the sniper and add the uturn particle pearl. You have oil covered with the power and the B1.

ebolanebowler · « **Reply #6 on:** April 12, 2006, 05:05:56 PM »

If you want to make the BIG ONE more controllable why not move the balacnce hole, or make one higher than you positive axis point...
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LuckyLefty · « **Reply #7 on:** April 12, 2006, 05:31:04 PM »

A guy at our lanes who is a POWER Stroker...he drives the ball to the breakpoint like Walter Ray...makes the Big one all polished up look like a strong controlled ball..

But he has a very level strong drive release!

REgards,

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BallsDeep · « **Reply #8 on:** April 12, 2006, 05:38:08 PM »

Don't shy away from polishing the ball. It will give it more length, and yes, a sharper breakpoint, but not to the extent to where it will be uncontrollable.

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People are buying stronger and stronger balls looking for that one ball that'll have them shooting the honor scores. However, the stronger equipment is not reacting the way you hope they will. Why? Because, there's just not as much oil on your THS as you may be thinking. Milder, more moderately-priced equipment many times reacts much more on THS's (then the state of the art...) because they're not burning up in the heads and midlane. The milder balls conserve more energy and will have more pop in the backend; if they're too squirrelly, then dull the surface a little till you get the desired reaction.

Is accurate, but it actually supports your idea about polishing the ball up. Polish will help the ball retain energy (reduce burn up) and the ball will have more power at the breakpoint. In my own opinion, you should polish the v2 on top of the oob surface, perhaps adding a flare reducing x hole. I would take the one down to about 1000 and add rough buff or down to 320 and polish, to make it a bit more useable, and create more of a gap between the v2 and the Big One, which you describe as pretty similar.

As a bench mark ball above the uturn pearl and below the v2, you could go with the doom as its probably the best mid priced on the market. Other suggestions would be the black ice, although not that agressive oob, surface tuning will make it a great option, or perhaps the uturn particle pearl that Leftyhi-track suggested.

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DanR · « **Reply #9 on:** April 13, 2006, 08:47:06 AM »

I have 2 Big Ones polished, actually it's more controllable for me this way then rather out of box. Compared to The One, it's a little sooner but doesn't loose the recovery on the backend. No under/over for me with a polished Big One

jnobcrew · « **Reply #10 on:** April 13, 2006, 03:02:54 PM »

I did not polish my BIG ONE, but it reacted better once I got some games in it, ie; oil, and the backend settled down. Now, it is an incredible ball that I can use in many ways. I have the pin above both fingers, and no balance hole.

Slopsurprise · « **Reply #11 on:** April 13, 2006, 08:26:38 PM »

A guy I know polished his and said it basically killed the reaction with the polish on it. He is a power player so, it wasnt becasue of a lack of hand in the ball either!

DanR · « **Reply #12 on:** April 13, 2006, 11:01:51 PM »

Can't expect the same reaction from a sanded ball and a polished ball. You have to think what you're doing before you do anything. This is why most bowlers get a reputation of being dumb

leftehh- LG · « **Reply #13 on:** April 14, 2006, 09:06:49 AM »

polishing it will store more energy and unload ( snap ) in the backend, so no, it won't.
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