That Ice, is pretty much a Tidalwave in disquise. Though the core is a bit leaner in the Ice, and its got a pearl cover. The Tidalwave had a solid reactive cover, with a much beefier core, that was easy to alter the surface on. Overall, the Tidalwave was a much stronger ball, but is long discontinued. The Fire is a Stinger rebirth with the same cover situation.
Erin