Elite Espionage, Echo, Treason, Traitor, BP Pegasus and BP Draco.

I'm interested but don't know anything about any of the balls. Which 2 would be good picks?

I'm interested but don't know anything about any of the balls. Which 2 would be good picks?

You need to subscribe to Bowlers Journal. It has a lot of good ball reviews, including most of Elite's

So subscribe and then order balls that will no longer be available 2 for 1 by the time I get my first issue?

How will subscribing now help me with balls from 2013?

No need to be smart about it. I was just letting you know that BJI has reviewed a lot of Elite and Bowlers Paradise balls. If you look on the Bowlers Paradise web ages for these balls there are useful descriptions and videos. The Echo, the Treason and the Pegasus were also reviewed in the Sept. 2013 issue of BTM. Also Juggernaut posted completely and thorough revews of the Echo and the Espionage in several threads in this forum.

If you're only interested in these balls because they're cheap now, you're doing yourself and them a disservice. Be interested in them because they're good, reliable, consistent and hard hitting.

Exactly!! If not for the price grabbing my attention I would have never considered Elite bowling balls. Just the truth.

I was merely looking for some feedback on here that's all. I read BTM reviews and watched some YouTube videos.

Charlest I apologize for my reply to you. Merely out of frustration.

I read the BTM review on the Treason and I'm intrigued. How does espionage compare/differ?

The Espionage (I also wrote a couple of posts in this forum back last Spring when I got my first Espionage) is 1/2 notch weaker overall than the Treason. The Esp handles medium to medium-heavy oil, depending on surface and drilling. I used a weak drilling (I'm rev dominant) but strong surface, 2000 grit, to handle a medium-heavy sport shot last Spring. I had a more controlled backed from the drillign which I needed on the sport shot. A more normal drilling got my friends (see below) a much stronger backend. This ball is very flexible, with a simple symmetric core. This year the new pattern is much lighter; thus the reason I am getting the Echo.

I told some friends about my Espionage and they went out and got one each also. (I'm in NJ and they're in Oregon and Washington.) Both loved it and it became part of their arsenals for medium-heavy oil.

Very high quality balls and everybody that I let roll the Espionage and Echo always comment about how good they hit! I've drilled several of the Elite balls and they are worth a look and at 2 for 1 and free shipping, it's even better. Just my $.02, Bruce

Im placing my order tonight. Thinking espionage for me and a friend but concerned about overlap with my marvel s and asylum. Maybe double thumb or motion hole an echo?? Decisions. Decisions.

I suspect the Marve-S is stronger than the Esp, but it and the Asylum, with the same surface, might be close. Knowing the Espionage, I'm more comfortable adjusting that.