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briandking1906

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Is Elite Phasing Out?
« on: October 16, 2014, 10:23:17 AM »
Is anyone aware of Elite working on any new products?  At one time I was told that they were testing some stuff in or around August, but have not heard or seen anything since. 

Not necessarily stating that they have to release new equipment just for the hell of it (keeping up with other companies), but just wanted to know if they are actually still active or in the process of phasing out.

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Re: Is Elite Phasing Out?
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2014, 03:37:47 PM »
You know what's silly? The fact that the price point was so high, but they're using other companies covers and weight blocks. The Abduction is clearly the Break/Eagle weight block with a S74 cover on it. Is the high price due to using other companies weight blocks?
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Re: Is Elite Phasing Out?
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2014, 03:50:23 PM »
Quote from: Impending Doom on October 20, 2014, 03:37:47 PM
You know what's silly? The fact that the price point was so high, but they're using other companies covers and weight blocks. The Abduction is clearly the Break/Eagle weight block with a S74 cover on it. Is the high price due to using other companies weight blocks?

It's $99.99 today ....
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Re: Is Elite Phasing Out?
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2014, 03:53:27 PM »
I checked Elite's website. They still have it up at $150 or something of that sort.
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itsallaboutme

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Re: Is Elite Phasing Out?
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2014, 04:15:32 PM »
The actual Elite website was always at least $20 a ball higher than BP.  Besides anyone that had a discount code all most no balls are sold through the Elite site.

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Re: Is Elite Phasing Out?
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2014, 05:11:08 PM »
For me, the best ball ever made is the original X-Factor.  It was cheaper than the Red Alien.  I didn't do it cause it was cool . . I just did it cause I liked it (best Matthew McConaughey voice). 

Quote from: milorafferty on October 20, 2014, 02:47:14 PM
Quote from: Gizmo823 on October 20, 2014, 02:44:49 PM
Touche.  I'd also rather do honest business than make a buck off a sucker.  I'd rather tell them the real reason it costs $300 than to tell them it's just because it's better than anything else out there.  I'm not saying that higher prices and honesty can't co-exist, I just don't want to feed the hype machine and have people go out to ultimately be disappointed and feel like I scammed them. 

Your last statement is exactly what I'm saying, they're all just bowling balls.  If the production costs are higher, that's what I tell them.  If they still want the ball, that's great, I'll sell it to them, I just want them to know the whole story.  I don't discuss specifics or divulge our actual cost or distributor pricing, but I think it would be insulting someone's intelligence to act like we don't charge more for something that costs us more. 

Quote from: itsallaboutme on October 20, 2014, 12:49:27 PM
If you knew how much money was made selling Aliens at $300 you wouldn't question it.

I don't understand why someone that runs a pro shop would feel negatively to higher priced products.  Makes no sense.  Think like a businessman and not like a consumer.

In the end they are all just bowling balls.

I know a couple of guys who claim that the Red Alien was the best ball ever made. They had no issues paying for them.
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Re: Is Elite Phasing Out?
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2014, 08:46:08 AM »
Not that it matters.  But I find it odd the "Today Only" sale is still going on with the Alien Abduction only $99.99 on BP and $149.99 (I assume regular price) on the Elite site.  At the same time, the "Z" ball is $79.99 on the Elite site and $89.99 on the BP site.

The BP site shows an original price of $299.99 for the Alien Abduction and on sale.  The Elite site, which I would assume would only post MSRP shows the ball is only $149.99.  This issue is with all of the balls between the two sites.

Bowling.com shows the Elite Gold with an MSRP of $399.99 on sale for $169.99 which is significantly different than the Elite website price of $149.99 (assuming MSRP) and different than BP where it has an MSRP of $299.99 and on sale for "Today Only" for $99.99.

I realize this all shouldn't really matter.  Buy what you want for the price you deem appropriate.  But I have never been able to disregard the inconsistencies I have seen with Elite gear.  You don't see this with other bowling companies.

Kohl's has even been sued for advertising sale prices based on fake "original" prices.  In this case, it seems Elite has an MSRP for a product then the retail shops show a different, much higher "original" price then a discount on that fake price.  This discount misleads the consumer to think they are getting a great deal when in reality, the deal isn't good when compared to what you get.

Now, some people may be fine spending more for Elite equipment and not think twice about it.  But for me, I don't like the lack of transparency.

And don't even get me started on their numerous fake reviews......
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Re: Is Elite Phasing Out?
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2014, 08:54:54 AM »
Quote from: Impending Doom on October 20, 2014, 03:53:27 PM
I checked Elite's website. They still have it up at $150 or something of that sort.

Tuesday, 10/21/14, 9:50 AM Eastern Time, on this web page,
http://shop.bowlersparadise.com/elite-bowling-balls
and on this page, http://shop.bowlersparadise.com/elite-alien-abduction-bowling-ball
The Elite Abduction is $99.99; flat rate shipping is $9.95.
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Re: Is Elite Phasing Out?
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2014, 08:59:57 AM »
Quote from: charlest on October 21, 2014, 08:54:54 AM
Quote from: Impending Doom on October 20, 2014, 03:53:27 PM
I checked Elite's website. They still have it up at $150 or something of that sort.

Tuesday, 10/21/14, 9:50 AM Eastern Time, on this web page,
http://shop.bowlersparadise.com/elite-bowling-balls
and on this page, http://shop.bowlersparadise.com/elite-alien-abduction-bowling-ball
The Elite Abduction is $99.99; flat rate shipping is $9.95.

Bowler's Paradise and the Elite website have different prices.
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Bowler19525

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Re: Is Elite Phasing Out?
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2014, 09:59:44 AM »
I bought my Elite Treason and Elite Echo via the Bowling Bandit auction site [when it was still running auctions].  Only paid $70 for each ball.  Certainly reasonable pricing for what amounts to a "house brand".

After several months of sitting undrilled at home, my Treason should be ready by the end of the week.  Anxious to see how it performs.  It was Made in China, and the engraving/markings look suspiciously similar to the engraving/marking used on the Pyramid Chosen Path balls.  For all I know they are made in the same factory in China.
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Re: Is Elite Phasing Out?
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2014, 10:03:43 AM »
Bowling Bandit is just another "site" for Bowlers Paradise to sell their stuff.
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Re: Is Elite Phasing Out?
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2014, 09:57:12 PM »
Quote from: briandking1906 on October 16, 2014, 10:23:17 AM
Is anyone aware of Elite working on any new products?  At one time I was told that they were testing some stuff in or around August, but have not heard or seen anything since. 

Not necessarily stating that they have to release new equipment just for the hell of it (keeping up with other companies), but just wanted to know if they are actually still active or in the process of phasing out.

Thanks

Two new high performance balls coming out next month.
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briandking1906

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Re: Is Elite Phasing Out?
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2014, 11:22:27 PM »
Quote from: Tenth Frame Products on October 22, 2014, 09:57:12 PM
Quote from: briandking1906 on October 16, 2014, 10:23:17 AM
Is anyone aware of Elite working on any new products?  At one time I was told that they were testing some stuff in or around August, but have not heard or seen anything since. 

Not necessarily stating that they have to release new equipment just for the hell of it (keeping up with other companies), but just wanted to know if they are actually still active or in the process of phasing out.

Thanks

Two new high performance balls coming out next month.

Thank You
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Re: Is Elite Phasing Out?
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2014, 06:17:49 AM »
Quote from: spmcgivern on October 21, 2014, 08:59:57 AM
Quote from: charlest on October 21, 2014, 08:54:54 AM
Quote from: Impending Doom on October 20, 2014, 03:53:27 PM
I checked Elite's website. They still have it up at $150 or something of that sort.

Tuesday, 10/21/14, 9:50 AM Eastern Time, on this web page,
http://shop.bowlersparadise.com/elite-bowling-balls
and on this page, http://shop.bowlersparadise.com/elite-alien-abduction-bowling-ball
The Elite Abduction is $99.99; flat rate shipping is $9.95.

Bowler's Paradise and the Elite website have different prices.

I understand. I rarely go to the Elite web site, as the BP site has everything plus the real, everyday prices.
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Bowler19525

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Re: Is Elite Phasing Out?
« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2014, 06:00:25 PM »
Quote from: milorafferty on October 21, 2014, 10:03:43 AM
Bowling Bandit is just another "site" for Bowlers Paradise to sell their stuff.

Yes, that is the main reason I was comfortable using it.  Plus it allowed for a huge discount on the balls.  It doesn't appear they have had any active auctions in the past 7 months.

My Treason is all set and I will be trying it for the first time on Sunday night.  It will be fun to try a new brand for the first time.
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Re: Is Elite Phasing Out?
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2014, 08:29:51 AM »
Elite just  came out with three new balls, so no not phasing out!!!
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