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qstick777

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Latest from Voss
« on: February 13, 2007, 06:33:41 AM »
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THE BOWLING BALL QUESTION
By Brian Voss
(2/15/2007)

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In the last edition of this column, I discussed the importance of putting words into action as part of contributing to positive changes in the sport of bowling. Naturally, the question that follows is, "There are so many problems out there to fix, which one should I focus on?" Obviously, that is a personal decision that each individual must figure out for himself, but the important factor is that you pick a cause that you feel strongly about and one that you are willing to put in the hard work required to influence change.

One topic that I feel very strongly about is the unchecked advancement in bowling equipment technology and its affect on the way in which the sport of bowling is now played. First off, I think it is very important for me to state that, as a player who has enjoyed some pretty decent success on Tour against the very best bowlers in the world for the past 25 years (has it really been that long?), and as someone who has won a recent Tour event (last January), that I'm very much a strong advocate of the idea that adapting your game to changing conditions and long-term trends is of the utmost importance in retaining your competitive edge. As much as anyone, I understand the importance of flexibility and versatility in playing this game at the highest possible level (and I'm not just talking about the Tour here, I'm talking about playing to your own maximum potential - whatever your skill level).

That being said, I have very real concerns about the influence that I believe the current state of bowling equipment technology is having on the declines in participation for the competitive element of the sport. While I will leave a more detailed discussion of that particular connection to another column, what I would like to focus on here is the impact that the way in which the game is currently played is having on the morale of the competitive bowler and the perception of bowling as a sport.

First of all, there is no question that lane conditions change much more quickly and much more dramatically than they have at any time since I began my bowling career. While this is frustrating for many - and undoubtedly has had its own effect on driving competitive bowlers away from the sport (albeit the less driven ones) - it is not the major cause for concern that I believe will have a more damaging long-term influence on the sport. In bowling, there are two basic factors that determine an individual's ability to compete and maximize scoring potential, namely: mistake area and carry percentage.

The effect that the latest equipment technology has caused for these two fundamental criteria is that it increases mistake area and it improves carry percentage. The ways in which bowling balls of today increase mistake area are well-documented, but a simple explanation is that, over time, the equipment can quickly "blow a hole" in the oil pattern, which creates more hook outside of target, thereby increasing mistake area on the lane. The amount of hook that the balls generate also enhances entry angle to the pocket, which leads to much higher carry percentages for everyone. The net effect of these changes are higher scores, which are well documented by the dramatic increase in PBA Tour averages over the past 15 years, despite a strong emphasis by the PBA Lane Maintenance crew on placing a premium on shot-making.

There are a few logical conclusions we can draw from these facts, but the most important are that bowlers have begun to understand that since there is more margin for error in both mistake area and carry percentage, that shot-making, while still important, is not as important as it was, say 15 years ago. The effect of that is less reliance on athletic talent and discipline and more on equipment knowledge, experimentation and simple, dumb luck. In my experience, when people feel like circumstances are beyond their control in any competitive endeavor, that is when they begin to lose interest and think about taking up something that allows them to gain that control through hard work, dedication and improvement through feedback.

What is the answer to this problem? All in good time. Until then, keep those letters coming and let us know what you think on this and other topics.

Brian Voss
 



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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2007, 02:45:28 PM »
Beat the dead horse beat it down quick Kick it in the groin while you are at it too. That is BV being BV so if it makes the playing field so much better than it did, then get with it or go home. Yes these balls give you breaks that 20 years ago did not exist, but if you do not like the game quit simple as that really.

I do not believe for one minute people quit because of stronger bowling balls, i for one have a 3 year old son starting soccer in less than a month. It is going to take up my time more and possibly i will only bowl one league next year if any of the sports i start him conflict. He will also be in a league next year for kids using bumpers and loves bowling already, he begs me to go all the time. He uses the rack but already has about 90 plus average somehow he picks spares better than me some days

People have other things to do in life like sports,cable and maybe just getting drunk at the bar. BV needs to forget about preaching to the choir because the money behind the ball companies will keep them making new and better stuff. Might be time to pack it up there BV and come coach my 3 year old for 40-50 an hour like a bunch of other former pros.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2007, 03:29:31 PM »
I don't believe people quit because of new bowling balls, I believe less new people come along to replace the old die harders. When it only takes a year or so to have a 200 avg, bowling loses its credability as a sport, and people don't join the leagues and such.


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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2007, 05:12:16 PM »
I am an "old timer" in the game, and have entertained the idea of quitting several times.
It is very difficult for THIS "old dog" to learn the "new tricks" of layout, surface prep, etc, as well as keeping track of holes blown in the pattern by guys throwing more hook, and patterns that get trashed because of old ladies throwing plastic down the middle.

Bowlers, as well as other humans, will always gravitate towards a situation that gives them the advantage - and bowling has done so.

I'm getting really tired of having to THINK so much while bowling. The sport used to be much simpler for the true serious competitor - and I'm starting to hit a burn out.

So - I would say a lot of that burnout IS because of the new equipment. I'm NOT thinking or saying that bowling should go back the way it was - that's impossible, and I've also benefitted from the new stuff. BUT - I am saying that it's making it more work than fun, and I want to have fun.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2007, 05:32:35 PM »
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I'm getting really tired of having to THINK so much while bowling. The sport used to be much simpler for the true serious competitor - and I'm starting to hit a burn out.




Do you understand what you just said? You're tired of THINKING? I thought the game was so easy now that you didn't have to THINK?

Old timers used to have it easy. The bowlers with the best combination of accuracy and physical ability always won. No THINKING, just find the slot and hit your mark....

Now the game is taking a turn towards being more mentally challenging than ever before. Regardless of easy lane conditions and "hook in a box" ball reactions, there are millions of more variables now that ever before (ball, layout, surface, lanes, transition..etc.) making it increasingly harder to "match up".

Combine this with still needing relatively good accuracy and decision making skills (on harder conditions) and you have one of the hardest sports to master at a very high level. And yet it is relatively easy to be competitive.

This to me makes the game more competitive and opens the doors to ANY style of bowler winning at any given moment. Why is this such a bad thing? Poker has relished this in their arena. Professional Bowling should do the same.....
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2007, 06:22:26 PM »
The mental challenge of the sport is my favorite part. I love to see a guy striking at will in practice and the first game because I can see how his shot is going to transition and if I know the bowler I also know whether or not he will make the adjustment or shoot 150 the third game. I enjoy making a change well before the rest on the pair and continuing to score while they are lost.
I may not be the most physically gifted bowler, but I can think my way to better scores than alot of them.
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2007, 10:23:38 AM »
b. voss,   so let me see if i have this right, "check out their balls cause they are forgiving".

buy one at what $329-$398,  and get a ball for free.

now doing the math.  most top line balls are selling online for about $120- $140.   noticed>>> currently on sale for $289.95.

so what you are saying is,  buy a $329-$398 ball from elite and get a ball for free.

so, one could just simply order 2 or 3 top line "name brand" balls and pay between $280.00 / $320.00

b. voss,  hows your buddy fuzzy doing!!!!!!!!!!  you know.  the X mr k-mart.


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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2007, 11:13:19 AM »
Jon,
Just wonder what period of time you are talking about, with your statement?



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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2007, 11:21:57 AM »
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When it only takes a year or so to have a 200 avg


Wow I suck then...
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2007, 11:43:40 AM »
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I don't like the game nearly as much as I used to, way too equipment dependent.

The ability to perform should based on the bowler's abilities not the fact that he's got more equipment.  Bowling has turned into a game of "matching up".....that sucks.
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Then why not use older equipment? I love how people with a 4 or 5 ball arsenal complain about the equipment. If you do not like the equipment, do not use it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



chad, omg,   we totally agree on something.   does this mean that there is hope for you,  or does it mean that there is hope for me???

still cold and snowy here,  but not as bad as the people in new york have it.

the sun came out,  and we have actually had customers today.
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2007, 12:11:21 PM »
I understand where BV is coming from and I believe he's writing these kind of messages because he's frustrated about the way things are going for him on tour right now.  But you know, Norm Duke isn't having a problem matching up, WRW is doing just fine with his equipment.  Voss made 1 show and won 1 title last year where it looks like he matched up pretty good.  Duke has made 9 shows and wone 3 and WRW has made 7 shows ( I think) and won a title.  Is the equipment really the reason BV is struggling ?    

P.S. - I do respect BV for making the comment that something has to be done to hinder the scoring pace, but I think no matter what kind of ball restrictions are placed on the ball companies, they'll find a way around it.  But I agree more with Johnny Petraglia in that the better bet on dropping the scoring pace to the point that shotmaking is rewarded again is to address lane conditions, side boards, gutter depth and pin dynamics.

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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2007, 12:12:31 PM »
Duke,

I was referring to the fact that lane conditions in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s were not as hard as old timers would like us to think they were. All you had to do was find the "slot" (each and every house with wood or lacquer lanes had a part of the lane that worked better than others) and get the ball to roll into the pins the right way.

Carry was hard to come by back then, mostly due to lack of revolutions or good roll, which is why certain bowlers always would beat those with less than desirable mechanics.

The only real difference now is that the balls allow a wider variety of bowlers to play more parts of the lane, creating better entry angles and better carry. More bowlers being competitive seems like a good thing to me. There are 10 times more variables now than 40 or 50 years ago.

In my opinion, pin technology has not kept up with ball technology. If the pins had gradually gotten heavier as the balls got stronger, you wouldn't see the scores so outrageous and the old timers wouldn't have much to complain about, except for the occasional solid 5-8 in the pocket....



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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2007, 01:30:27 PM »
Can't the same be said for the game of golf?

Back in the day, it seemed only seasoned professionals could make it.  With the advancement of club technology, the equipment is more forgiving of golfer error.


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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2007, 01:36:53 PM »
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Then why not use older equipment? I love how people with a 4 or 5 ball arsenal complain about the equipment. If you do not like the equipment, do not use it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'll start using older equipment when my opponents all do the same.  Otherwise, I'd be at a *huge* competitive disadvantage.
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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2007, 02:11:47 PM »
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I'll start using older equipment when my opponents all do the same.  Otherwise, I'd be at a *huge* competitive disadvantage.


I still use old equipment.  Rhino Pro Teal, Fire Quantum, Nitro R.  

Play the lane and the old stuff still works.
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