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Title: Navy Faball
Post by: dougb on February 16, 2009, 02:14:32 PM: Anybody know about the Navy Faballs? Many people seem to be crazy about these older Hammers. I may have a line on a NIB and I'm curious.

http://www.bowlingball.com/Bowling-Ball-2528/hammer-faball-1980-navy-reactive-by-faball.html

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Title: Re: Navy Faball
Post by: Juggernaut on February 16, 2009, 10:18:02 PM: Just a mild reactive cover over an original hammer weightblock. Check out this link for a bit more info:
http://www.123bowl.com/ball.asp?ballid=283
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Title: Re: Navy Faball
Post by: scotts33 on February 16, 2009, 10:22:01 PM: No there is just one guy who is nuts about old Hammers...the reason pro's like Marc McDowell and some other failed for a few years were Faball/Hammers behind the times developments in reactive covers/balls. JMO!
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Title: Re: Navy Faball
Post by: Juggernaut on February 16, 2009, 10:36:40 PM: quote:
No there is just one guy who is nuts about old Hammers...the reason pro's like Marc McDowell and some other failed for a few years were Faball/Hammers behind the times developments in reactive covers/balls. JMO!
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I have to agree with scotts33 here. The older pure URETHANE hammers were hard to beat, but, when the reactives came around, they just couldn't/didn't make stuff that would perform like the other guys.

They fell behind and people stopped buying them. Hammer FINALLY had a good thing going with their 3-D and SLEDGEHAMMER lines, but by then it was too late.

Like I said, the first reactive hammers were VERY mild reactives over the original hammer core. Just weren't strong enough to keep up.

IMHO, I think some of this was probably by design. Hammer built its reputation on solid, smooth, dependable performance and I just don't think the designers ever thought that people would prefer wildly strong, uncontrollable hooking monsters over their predictable, smooth performance. By the time they saw what was happening, they were just too far behind.
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Title: Re: Navy Faball
Post by: Doug Sterner on February 16, 2009, 10:45:13 PM: The Navy Resin Hammer was released around 1990 if I recall and was wicked calm...I'd love to have one again but $100 is a bit more than I care to spend.

Of the 3 resin Hammers (navy resin with the original Hammer core, red resin with the "Track Nuke" looking core and the Violet with the lightbulb core) the red was the most well used and liked.
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Title: Re: Navy Faball
Post by: dougb on February 16, 2009, 11:15:49 PM: So which are the coveted urethane models?
Title: Re: Navy Faball
Post by: Juggernaut on February 17, 2009, 08:49:40 PM: quote:
So which are the coveted urethane models?

ALL the original urethane models are sought after, some more than others

To me, they seem to fall in this order:

1. BLUE
2. BURGUNDY
3. PINK
4. BLACK
5. RED
6. RED PEARL
7. BLUE PEARL
8. PURPLE

There was also a Faball named The NAIL. It is the same core with a harder, polished cover. It was a darker blue color

If you find ANY of these undrilled in 15lb weight, they can bring a pretty penny, especially the BLUE and PINK hammers
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Title: Re: Navy Faball
Post by: raiderh20boy on February 19, 2009, 08:37:57 PM: I have a NEW NAIL 15 I think No box that I might be willing to part with for the RIGHT PRICE!!
Title: Re: Navy Faball
Post by: MI 2 AZ on May 22, 2009, 05:56:48 PM: Are you sure that it is the original and correct box for that ball? Do the serial numbers match between what is on the ball and the box?

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Title: Re: Navy Faball
Post by: Doug Sterner on May 22, 2009, 08:38:51 PM: The Navy reactive was most definitely not produced in 1980. The original Black Hammer was produced in the mid to late 80's.

The Navy Resin was not produced until 1993 or 1994. resin was not in production in anyu way shape or form until 1992 with the X Calibur and Purple Rhino Pro.

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Title: Re: Navy Faball
Post by: joegunn on May 23, 2009, 10:03:41 AM: Definitely not 1980...Here is some additional info on the Faball Navy Hammer

http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=283

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Title: Re: Navy Faball
Post by: stormed1 on May 23, 2009, 12:01:21 PM: Hammer was the last of the major companies to come out with a resin ball. Naby did not like the Navy because it did not turn sideways off the spot. It was a very controlable piece that heavy handed players loved for its control.