I have a 15lb ebonite champion less then 15 games drilled it up for a tourney and just don't need that big of back ended ball. Span is around 4.5 on both fingers. No finger inserts but does have a thumb slug. Looking for $80 shipped only balls I'd be interested in trading for is motiv and with out a interchangeable thumb system in it. If u would like pics email me at soufrog@gmail.com (this is quickest way to get a hold of me) and I'll email them to u.  Thanks for looking and fill free to ask any questions