Alright here's the deal, i just traded my marvel pearl for this ball. threw it for about 4 frames in league last night and the ball just doesn't come close to anything im looking for. Guy said it had about 20 games on it before i got it and threw it for 4 frames last night so 20.5 games. Cover is in excellent shape, like literally dont have a track on it. So with all that being said looking to trade this for a storm or roto ball. looking for something with the pin either above or below the ring finger, i seem to get the best results with it being in those areas and me being a 2 hander. Can send pics of the ball to any email address and also ball has a turbo slug inserted. its how it came