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jimensminger

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looking for a PAP finder
« on: August 31, 2005, 12:50:44 AM »
it's a curved piece of metal with holes in it,..with a smal suction cup on one end,..anyone got any idea where I can buy one,..

 

Nodsleinad

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Re: looking for a PAP finder
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2005, 09:03:12 AM »
http://lane1bowling.com/acc/axis_finder.html

This what you were looking for?????

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jimensminger

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Re: looking for a PAP finder
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2005, 02:48:32 PM »
that's not it,...what I want has a clear suction cup on one end, attached to a curved ruler with holes in it,...at most it should be about $20....

raiderh20boy

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Re: looking for a PAP finder
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2005, 05:15:41 PM »
There is an article in the July BJ about this tool. JIm Sands  came up with it. Its called an Axis Locator tool. I wanted to get one just to see it but never got around to it. In the article it says to email to jsands@houston.rr.com Let me know if you do get one and what you think of it please. Email to raiderh20boy@yahoo.com

jimensminger

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Re: looking for a PAP finder
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2005, 08:07:30 AM »
raider,...I think that's it,...I'm talking to John now,..thanks,...this tool is the best thing to come along since sliced bread

Nodsleinad

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Re: looking for a PAP finder
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2005, 08:17:22 AM »
Jim is this to find your axis after drilling or before drilling.  At least what you want it for?

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jimensminger

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Re: looking for a PAP finder
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2005, 08:35:45 AM »
it's a before drilling tool,..sweet.

not on JayHawk

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Re: looking for a PAP finder
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2005, 09:13:47 AM »
did you buy one and use it yet?

how much?

jimensminger

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Re: looking for a PAP finder
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2005, 09:25:34 AM »
one of the RotoGrip reps had one in the shop the other day,..I watched him use it,..he laid out a new ball in under 60 seconds...with the exact pin and cg locations to his grip. No guess work. It's a very simple tool. It has about a 1" suction cup on one end of a curved ruler with holes in it every half inch.
You attach the suction cup to the pin, take a yellow pencil and put it in the 5" hole and draw a arcing line,the ruler rotates around the suction cup,...then put the cup on the cg and draw a 3" arc the same way,...where the arcs criss-cross is your pap marked exactly with a 5 x 3 layout,...just back in your span,....so simple. I talked to jsand in the e-mail above and they're $25,...I'm ordering one today.

Jeff Ussery

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Re: looking for a PAP finder
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2005, 09:28:00 AM »
Hello everyone,

We actually have a few tools related to this topic.

1) Precision Ball Compass - this tool is designed to layout pin, center of gravity, and mass bias distances accurately and quickly.  All aluminum construction makes the tool very sturdy.  Your yellow pencil tip touches the surface of the ball at a 90 degree angle so that the compass and pencil never slip and scratch the ball during layout.  The precision compass uses a steel pin to hold the tool to the ball so that you are getting very precise measurements versus a flexible rubber suction cup or other type of device that have room for error.

2) Jayhawk Axis Reversing Tool - this tool is designed to reverse the bowler's positive axis point coordinates once the location of the PAP has been determined through ball layout.  By setting the tool to both the horizontal and vertical axis coordinates for your bowler, you can rotate the tool to show all centerlines available from that PAP without having to draw the perpendicular lines each time.

3) MoRich Armadillo - this tool is probably the best and easiest way to actually locate a bowler's positive axis point from an existing bowling ball.  You simply match the concentric lines with the bowler's track, and then mark the positive axis point at the end of the tool.  I think this is a must have for any prop shop.

All of these tools can be seen at:

www.jayhawkbowling.com

If anybody has any questions, please feel free to email me at jeffu@jayhawkbowling.com.  We're always here to answer questions and further educate bowlers.

Jeff Ussery
Product Manager
Jayhawk Bowling Supply

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Nodsleinad

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Re: looking for a PAP finder
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2005, 09:37:29 AM »
But can we buy them if we are not a Pro Shop?

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Jeff Ussery

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Re: looking for a PAP finder
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2005, 09:47:04 AM »
Hello,

Anybody can buy products from Jayhawk Bowling Supply.  Call us at 800-255-6436.  Thanks,

Jeff Ussery
Jayhawk Bowling Supply

jimensminger

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Re: looking for a PAP finder
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2005, 10:17:03 AM »
Jeff,..how much is the axis rev tool,..I don't see any prices listed,..

Jeff Ussery

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Re: looking for a PAP finder
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2005, 10:18:48 AM »
Hello,

Here are our prices for the three items I listed:

Precision Compass  $89.00
Jayhawk Axis Reversing Tool  $169.00
MoRich Armadillo  $64.95

Thanks,

Jeff Ussery
Product Manager
Jayhawk Bowling Supply