Have a 15lb motiv cruel with about 10 to 15 games on it. Going back to throwing all storm so this has to go. Really really wanting to trade this ball for a crossroad. That would be my ultimate trade but would interested in a reign supreme, nomad dagger, or frantic as well.. For me to be interested in any ball, the pin has to be over the ring finger and it be a super strong drilling.. seems like every weak drilling for me just dies on the back end so this is about the only drilling that works. I would be interested in other balls too obviously but those are the main ones im looking for