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jkiser01

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UPDATE on Track 3 ball roller deal with user Trackfreak
« on: May 28, 2003, 02:33:44 AM »
All,

I'm sure most if not all of you know of the problems I had getting this bag, well I got it in the mail today and as I suspected, its not in the condition I ws told by user Trackfreak. I was told it was used for 1/2 the bowling season and then he upgraded to a 4 ball roller, well this bag has been obviously used for several years. Its thread worn on several edges of the bag and scuffed thruout. The shoulder strap is also missing.

I just mailed Trackfreak and told him because he mis-represented the bag, I wanted my full $75 back that I originally paid for a SLIGHTLY used bag, and was gonna be shipping this VERY used bag back to him today via Fed ex ground.

Why can't people just tell the truth about stuff? This has been a nightmare.

Trackfreak, have anything to say? I can provide photos of the bag as I was taking it out of the shipping box just a few minutes ago to anyone that wants to see what this bag looks like. This bag was NOT in the condition you had told me. The edges are worn thread bare in several places. I am VERY angry at this point.

Just sent back my 75 bucks!!

JIM KISER

Edited on 5/28/2003 8:41 PM
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Re: UPDATE on Track 3 ball roller deal with user Trackfreak
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2003, 09:38:50 AM »
JK, I just went through a bad experience on Ebay. I got my product, as described but shipping took over 2 weeks. It was shipped from Washington to Oregon. 350 miles total. Seller never answered any messages. I won't purchase from this seller again.

Most retailers will take an item back if YOU pay for the shipping to return it.

Trackfreak, give him the $#75 back and he pays the shipping to you and writes it off as a bad experience.

Again, JK, I have a shoulder strap off a Storm Streamline 3 ball roller. It is black but if you want it, I will let you have it. Free!

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Re: UPDATE on Track 3 ball roller deal with user Trackfreak
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2003, 09:40:38 AM »
trackfreak-

I am a  pretty tolerant guy and I try to give people the benefit of the doubt.  At one point I even thought maybe jkiser01 was going overboard on all this.  

You take forever to send a bag, you lie about having already sent it, you lie about its condition, and to top it all off now you are threatening to sue him.

Athough normally reserved in my judgements you are an idiot.

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jkiser01

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Re: UPDATE on Track 3 ball roller deal with user Trackfreak
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2003, 09:41:32 AM »
Buzzhead,

He can't sue me, I have done nothing but state facts here and thats it. He is just trying to scare me into dropping this and its not gonna work.

The bottom line is this. He agreed to sell me a bag that was mis-represented and because of that, I want my money back. I don't think that is slander..

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Re: UPDATE on Track 3 ball roller deal with user Trackfreak
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2003, 09:48:48 AM »
ttforshort,

Thanks for all the comments. Send me a private message about the strap. I will probably take it.

By the way, I agreed to pay all shipping costs to get the bag back to him as long as he agreed to refund my 75 bucks and he said NO!!

I'm trying to work things out like n adult, but he is not willing at all..

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Re: UPDATE on Track 3 ball roller deal with user Trackfreak
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2003, 09:56:45 AM »
Jkiser01,

  Sorry to see that you've had to deal with something like this. However, I appreciate you alerting the rest of us about the shady practices of this user. It's too bad we can't all conduct business in a mature way. Some people only care about themselves and what they get out of things. I wish we could all trust one another, but it's obvious that some people cannot be trusted.

Trackfreak,

  First of all, if you know anything about the law, and it seems obvious that you don't, you would know that you would be talking about a libel suit, not slander. Second of all, the odds of winning such a case would be nearly impossible since the messages that you are disputing are on a public forum that is protected by law, and that you have suffered no significant injury because of that speech. You would be smart to just refund his money and take the stupid bag back. I don't know if you're an honest seller or not, becuase we've never done business. However, you're making yourself look very bad because of your stance on this transaction and I would doubt if anyone will work with you in the future. If this were siimply a case of buyer's remorse I would be on your side. But everything that I've seen posted makes me believe that you are in the wrong here. Do the right thing and give the man his money back. Then you can take your bag and try to sell it to someone else, someone who accepts the condition that it is in. Is it an invconvenience, yes. But doing so will prove that you are willing to do the right thing and that you may be trusted. It's your reputation on the line.


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Re: UPDATE on Track 3 ball roller deal with user Trackfreak
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2003, 03:21:52 PM »
All,

I took some more closeup photos while I was home for lunch and will post them later on. They clearly show the corners of the bag where its worn and ripped..

Lets see what trackfreak has to say about that..

JK

Edited on 5/29/2003 3:26 PM
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Re: UPDATE on Track 3 ball roller deal with user Trackfreak
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2003, 05:09:53 PM »
JK-

sorry to hear about your horrible transaction. I hope no one ever has to go though what you had to do.

as for trackfreak... don't ever become a seller if you aren't willing to accept criticism. also servicing the customer should be your number one priority if you are an online seller. people would cut you some slack if you would just help satisfy the customer. THAT'S WHAT STORES AND SELLERS DO!!!!

so.. the lesson from all of this... if you're just trying to get rid of something, be HONEST!!!!

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Re: UPDATE on Track 3 ball roller deal with user Trackfreak
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2003, 06:07:17 PM »
I HEARD SOMEONE MENTION E-BAY.WELL I`M "TRACK-FREAK" ON THAT SITE AN I DONT HAVE ANY THING TO DO WITH THIS GUY ON HERE.DONT KNOW HIM...DONT KNOW HIS GIRLFRIEND...DONT WANT TO KNOW HIM.I BELIEVE YOU STAND BUY YOUR WORD EVEN IF IT COST YOU MONEY.SO IF I BUY A BALL FROM SOMEONE IN THIS SITE (ON EBAY) JUST REMEMBER...LUV2C10FALL IS JUST A GOOD OLD BOY FROM MONTANA WHO LIVES IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AN LOVES TO BOWL!!
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jkiser01

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Re: UPDATE on Track 3 ball roller deal with user Trackfreak
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2003, 06:12:06 PM »
trackfreak,

Whatever on the padding between the balls. Where's the shoulder strap? I guess it didn't come with one right?

So are you ready to give me my money back yet or are you gonna keep this whole thing going? I told you I would pay to ship the bag back to you, if you agree to refund my 75 bucks..

I am gonna post pics tonight to let everyone see the bag you sold me..

JK

Edited on 5/29/2003 6:17 PM
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jkiser01

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Re: UPDATE on Track 3 ball roller deal with user Trackfreak
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2003, 12:50:26 PM »
Still no word form trackfreak so I guess he is still not man enough to make things right on this deal..

JK

Edited on 5/30/2003 12:54 PM
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Re: UPDATE on Track 3 ball roller deal with user Trackfreak
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2003, 10:04:21 PM »
jk....her ein good old PA you can go after a seller for misrepresentation...I think it is called false advertising :-)

I have had a few people upset at me over the years and each and every time I had offered a refund. It is the only manly thing to do.

I just sold my Storm 3 ball roller bag for about that price and it is in near mint condition...just ask the buyer...Paul where are ya???
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Re: UPDATE on Track 3 ball roller deal with user Trackfreak
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2003, 10:30:48 PM »
Take it from someone who works in a courthouse. The Lawsuit would be thrown out and he would probably be libel for atty fees. And no that is not harassment, It's a business deal gone bad. Any Atty that would touch that with a ten foot pole isn't worth the paper his or her law degree is written on. Just take back the d@mn bag and call it a day.
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Re: UPDATE on Track 3 ball roller deal with user Trackfreak
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2003, 10:53:11 PM »
track.com ?!?!

Trackfreak...if that is the link you're giving him for information on the roller bag, then you're seriously a rip-off artist. Shouldn't it be trackbowling.com ?!

I highly doubt it was a typo. Beware of this guy.

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Re: UPDATE on Track 3 ball roller deal with user Trackfreak
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2003, 12:03:26 AM »
g_thing,

Thanks for letting everyone know your side of this long and sad story. G_thing has seen the bag and like he said, it was not as Bill described it, period!!

Its obvious to me trackfreak is not gonna be a MAN and take the bag back as everyone here thinks he should do to save his character, but then again, its obvious he doesn't care about that either..

JK



Edited on 5/31/2003 0:08 AM
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Re: UPDATE on Track 3 ball roller deal with user Trackfreak
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2003, 09:47:36 AM »
Sorry to hear about the situation. I was messaging Trackfreak back and forth totry and get some compensation for the two balls I sent him in March for a Brunswick 3-Ball roller (New,Never used). I haven't heard from him now for a couple days......Shocker