Post by: chitown on August 03, 2006, 05:35:32 PM
What do you guys think of his idea?
Maybe we could send this idea to Hammer and see if they listen.
Post by: dizzyfugu on August 04, 2006, 04:07:57 AM
Any core Hammer uses is rather low RG - when such a ball hits dry ground it easily "bleeds" energy and hooks early.
One strategy to fill that "gap" is either, as chitown proposes, a weak coverstock like the discontinued Black Pure Hammer's (solid urethane/reactive blend, noone knows for sure - but VERY smooth even on dry lanes!) with a current core OR, what I'd suggest, a tweaked core, e. g. the Raw Hammer's or old Blade/classic Hammer core with a low density nucleus to shift weight towards the coverstock, or adding 1 or 2 flip blocks to achieve the same while maintaining a medium differential. The Vibe core could be another candidate for such a (small) operation.
I think that Hammer could use such a ball well and it would certainly fill a reaction and even condition gap in their assortment?
What do you Hammer users think?
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Post by: ImaRedbird on August 04, 2006, 10:28:38 AM
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Post by: KDawg77 on August 04, 2006, 10:44:10 AM
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Post by: splendorlex on August 04, 2006, 10:47:51 AM
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Post by: KDawg77 on August 04, 2006, 10:48:35 AM
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Post by: splendorlex on August 04, 2006, 10:58:24 AM
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Post by: anotherwindup on August 04, 2006, 01:49:10 PM
I didn't like this ball at all. The cover was too strong for it's intention, and as for using it on the dry??? NO chance for me. I sanded it to 4000, then polished the doo-doo out of it, and that ball hooked way too early for me. 5.5' pin to pap, 75* layout, so that wasn't the problem.
I personally hope that is the last of the black pure cover....ever.
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Post by: Jesse James on August 04, 2006, 06:04:34 PM
My experience with this ball, in bowling on choppy, brokedown pattern, and dry lanes, is that it is surprisngly stronger than most pearls I've used. Even when it was highly polished, if I could get it to the spot.....it jumped off wayy too hard. And that was with fairly weak drillings.
Nice idea, again, but better pick a different cover.
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Post by: ShermDawg on August 05, 2006, 08:52:49 AM
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Post by: KDawg77 on August 07, 2006, 06:58:31 AM
"Ken,
Thanks for the feedback on the Doom. It is definitely a very good ball that continues to get positive reviews from the field.
As for using the classic Hammer core with a more aggressive coverstock, there are no plans to do it at this time. We are now using a new core in the mid-priced series with the Raw Hammer Doom and Pain. For stronger hook motion, the Pain is a great option as it is strong and controllable.
I will definitely keep your idea in mind for a possible future release.
Brian
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Post by: dizzyfugu on August 07, 2006, 07:30:09 AM
BTW, I persoanlly think that the Pure Hammer is a good ball, but it just has the wrong core for the job it is supposed to do - too low RG, and therefor it hooks that much. The coverstock material is great for light and even dry conditions. There is much potential in it. Let's hope that there might come a Pure Hammer derivate some day. But I am sure it will find not only a few users.
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Post by: FastTracker33 on August 07, 2006, 01:22:54 PM
Core: Blade Core with added flip block
Coverstock: maybe Juiced Reactive or an Upgraded Juiced Reactive?
????? i dont know this is what i would like anyways
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Post by: FastTracker33 on August 08, 2006, 02:25:52 AM
quote:quote:
hmmm.. this might be a little aggressive, but..
Core: Blade Core with added flip block
Coverstock: maybe Juiced Reactive or an Upgraded Juiced Reactive?
????? i dont know this is what i would like anyways
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