Author Topic: Black Widow Bite question (Read 3105 times)

bucsfan713 · « **on:** July 07, 2008, 11:13:55 PM »

I have a question about the Bite. Is there any way I can make a cover adjustment to get the ball to be less angular and roll with more of an arch? Thanks
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Goof1073 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 08, 2008, 07:25:03 AM »

The more surface you put on a given ball the more energy it will release in the oil / smooth out in the friction. I've got one of mine at 1000 and it rolls pretty well...1000 might be too much for you so I would try 2000 to start.
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Grayson · « **Reply #2 on:** July 08, 2008, 07:31:02 AM »

The bite is a solid, right... is it also particle? cause I am a bit confused... BTM says it is plain solid reactive... Hammer homepage says nothing at all. But I heard about that ball being particle.... :confused:

well... it say 4000 abralon as OOB... I would try taking it down stepwise and see what works out:
2000 - throw it
1500 - throw it
1000 - throw it
(I would take the pads with me and do it by hand on the lane if possible)

anything lower might make the ball burn up whereas I found for me that the 1000grit finish is getting finicky about oil... .

if you find that nor is satisfying... lets say 2000 is still too angular and 1500 burns up... put a tad polish on the 1500

Disclaimer:
This is just a general advice I would give to anyone on any ball with any surface. I have not owned not thrown this ball and can only give you my experiece with coverstock/surface adjustments.
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COOKIE · « **Reply #3 on:** July 08, 2008, 07:56:32 AM »

ENJOY THE ANGULARITY WHILE IT LASTS.AFTER A FEW WEEKS YOU WILL WONDER WHERE THE HOOK WENT.THE HAMMER BITE LOSES IT'S ORIGINAL REACTION PRETTY FAST.

Grayson · « **Reply #4 on:** July 08, 2008, 08:13:07 AM »

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ENJOY THE ANGULARITY WHILE IT LASTS.AFTER A FEW WEEKS YOU WILL WONDER WHERE THE HOOK WENT.THE HAMMER BITE LOSES IT'S ORIGINAL REACTION PRETTY FAST.

Does the Coverstock wear off so fast?
Or is that the oil absorbtion?
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dechrist · « **Reply #5 on:** July 08, 2008, 08:17:17 AM »

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The bite is a solid, right... is it also particle? cause I am a bit confused... BTM says it is plain solid reactive... Hammer homepage says nothing at all. But I heard about that ball being particle.... :confused:

It is a plain solid reactive, there is no particle in it. I believe that the last particle Hammer made was the original (blue) Hawg.

Anyway, back to the question: I'd take it down to 2000 Abralon and give it a try. If my BWS is any indication, it'll get into its roll sooner, and give a nice strong arc into the pocket. BTW, how is the ball drilled?
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JVan19 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 08, 2008, 08:22:01 AM »

I have had my Bite for a while and it has a good amount of games on it and it hooks just as much now as the day I first used it. It is still the most hooking ball in the bag and mine even has a coat of polish on it. This ball turns the corner harder than any of my other Hammer balls and it still forgiving enough when I miss the mark.

I clean it after every set with Windex and give it a hot water bath on occasion. I have been using it on my PBA Experience league and the ball has been outstanding. Just my .02 cents worth.
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bucsfan713 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 08, 2008, 08:51:44 AM »

Thanks for the advice, I will try it at 2000 and see how I like it.

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ENJOY THE ANGULARITY WHILE IT LASTS.AFTER A FEW WEEKS YOU WILL WONDER WHERE THE HOOK WENT.THE HAMMER BITE LOSES IT'S ORIGINAL REACTION PRETTY FAST.

I have had this ball since it came out, and I love it. It still hooks(my Beat'n hooks up sooner), but I want to mess around with the cover for my summer league because its too angular at times. I love the Bite, I even have an 805 with it. I guess it's summer time and I'm bored and looking for something to do, so I'll see how changing the surface works.
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themagician · « **Reply #8 on:** July 08, 2008, 12:05:20 PM »

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Thanks for the advice, I will try it at 2000 and see how I like it.

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ENJOY THE ANGULARITY WHILE IT LASTS.AFTER A FEW WEEKS YOU WILL WONDER WHERE THE HOOK WENT.THE HAMMER BITE LOSES IT'S ORIGINAL REACTION PRETTY FAST.

I have had this ball since it came out, and I love it. It still hooks(my Beat'n hooks up sooner), but I want to mess around with the cover for my summer league because its too angular at times. I love the Bite, I even have an 805 with it. I guess it's summer time and I'm bored and looking for something to do, so I'll see how changing the surface works.
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Awesome shooting there man.

And on to the ball death comment. I've not experienced any issue with any black widow out when talking about ball death. I do regularly clean my equipment, and I diligently take care of them more than just cleaning. People don't realize that a ball with such a fine surface as 2k or 4k abralon need to refreshed, meaning lightly sanded back to that grit periodically as the ball will tame down as it tracks up. A routine quick sanding will cause this issue to be nonexistent and preserve the ball reaction.

I just get frustrated with the ball death stuff as it really is not as bad or bad at all, people just blow everything out of proportion and companies get a bad rep because people are to lazy to clean and maintenance their equipment. /RANT
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T Brockette · « **Reply #9 on:** July 08, 2008, 12:13:23 PM »

I have been using my Bite since around May and would say I have around 150 games on it with, in my opinion, no reaction loss at all. Also, to be honest, I very rarely clean my equipment......jkiser01 makes fun of me because of that!
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Grayson · « **Reply #10 on:** July 08, 2008, 12:17:32 PM »

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I just get frustrated with the ball death stuff as it really is not as bad or bad at all, people just blow everything out of proportion and companies get a bad rep because people are to lazy to clean and maintenance their equipment. /RANT
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chitown · « **Reply #11 on:** July 08, 2008, 12:38:11 PM »

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I just get frustrated with the ball death stuff as it really is not as bad or bad at all, people just blow everything out of proportion and companies get a bad rep because people are to lazy to clean and maintenance their equipment. /RANT

I agree to some extent with the above.

I've owned a lot of bowling balls over the last 5 years. I've seen balls lose some of their hook power after a number of games. I used to clean bowling balls religiously but learned that cleaning won't stop the oil from being absorbed into the coverstock. removing the oil from the coverstock is the only way to keep the balls performance up to "like new" status. Removing oil from the coverstock is easy. I've used the HOT WATER BATH process with great success.

So in short, I no longer spend money on ball cleaner and just use the hot water bath process more often. If I want the coverstock to look nice, I hit it with a abralon pad on my ball spinner.

themagician · « **Reply #12 on:** July 08, 2008, 12:54:14 PM »

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So in short, I no longer spend money on ball cleaner and just use the hot water bath process more often. If I want the coverstock to look nice, I hit it with a abralon pad on my ball spinner.

There is some truth to that Chi, I have found that cleaning the ball as well as wiping the ball in between shots cuts down the oil absorption to an extent. Every bit does help and hot water baths are great. But Since I starting being very anal about cleaning my stuff I've found that I don't need to hot water bathe my equipment as often.

I do consider hot water bathing a ball routine maintenance any more though, and I stand by my earlier comments. I haven't experienced ball death but on one occasion and that was my laziness and lack of taking care of the ball.
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