Post by: agroves on December 01, 2007, 03:02:51 PM
I've watched the buddies video and it sure looks nice. But, I'm 99.9% positive our house shot isn't as dry as that one on the outside. Even the crankers play right of 15 at the arrows.
With only 4 reviews in the review section, all positive I'm looking for more testimonials.
Andrew
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After 4 consecutive high shots, I told my wife "They aren't saying boo, they're saying MOOOOOOOVE".
Post by: scotts33 on December 02, 2007, 05:07:25 AM
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Post by: Fatboy8 on December 02, 2007, 06:19:15 AM
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Post by: agroves on December 02, 2007, 11:29:23 AM
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I wouldn't go off the Buddies video but that's just me. Good luck.
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I'm not, thats why I'm on here discussing the ball. I don't throw the ball like that 'video star', but it is a good idea of what the ball is about.
Andrew
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Post by: chitown on December 02, 2007, 02:43:37 PM
I had some great games with these strong drilled Anger's. I really liked how they rolled even though drilled too strong. With this layout the ANger had a ton of mid-lane and continuation on the back end. Great ball and layout for heavier longer oil. Since I had two of them drilled the same I ended up polishing one and left the other in box condition. The polished Anger was about 7 boards weaker than in box condition. The polish did help this ball retain some energy and made it more playable on many conditions.
I ended up trading both of these Anger's back into the pro-shop I use. The balls were just too strong for me. I was finding myself having to keep moving left every other frame just to keep the ball in the pocket.
I recently got rid of all my equipment (3 to 4 weeks ago)and bought a new arsenal of balls. One of the new balls in my arsenal was another Anger. This time I went with a much better layout for my game, which is pin above the bridge 5.5" from my pap and no balance hole.
I have less than 1 game on my new Anger but was right about the layout I went with. I can already tell i'm going to be able to use this Anger a lot more than my other ones. The ball still has an awesome mid-lane and controllable but strong back end motion.
Just put your favorite layout on it and your set! The balls characteristics will still show no matter what layout's on it.
Edited on 12/3/2007 8:53 AM
Post by: Fatboy8 on December 02, 2007, 02:48:43 PM
I took mine too 500 abralon, it really came to life on the oil. The drilling helps it have some great backend, and still gets through the oil with no problems. I can play straight up the boards with it, or swing it, and still get great results. Even at the 1000/2000 (can't remember which one)factory it's a beast.
Two of my buddies drilled one up stacked leverage, next to the fingers, and this ball is sick with that layout. Waaay to strong for our THS, and can handle any amount of oil they've come across. It's comparable to my SCB drilled the same way.
I don't think you could go wrong with one of these. Next to the BW and Cherry Vibe, this is a must have ball. You can't go wrong with any of your favorite layouts you'd chose.
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Post by: Atochabsh on December 02, 2007, 03:14:52 PM
Erin
Post by: scotts33 on December 02, 2007, 03:23:41 PM
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I had 2 Anger's drilled exactly the same. I made a huge mistake drilling these two balls. I must of had a major brain fart because I drilled them stacked leverage. This pin position for me is way too strong for my game. However, here's what I found out with the Anger.
I had some great games with these strong drilled Anger's. I really liked how they rolled even though drilled too strong. With this layout the ANger had a ton of mid-lane and continuation on the back end. Great ball and layout for heavier longer oil. Since I had two of them drilled the same I ended up polishing one and left the other in box condition. The polished Anger was about 7 boards weaker than in box condition. The polish did help this ball retain some energy and made it more playable on many conditions.
I ended up trading both of these Anger's back into the pro-shop I use. The balls were just too strong for me. I was finding myself having to keep moving left every other frame just to keep the ball in the pocket.
I recently got rid of all my equipment (3 to 4 weeks ago)and bought a new arsenal of balls. One of the new balls in my arsenal was another Anger. This time I went with a much better layout for my game, which is pin above the bridge 5.5" from my pap and no balance hole.
I have less than 1 game on my new Anger but was right about the layout I went with. I can already tell i'm going to be able to use this Anger a lot more than my other ones. The ball still has an awesome mid-lane and controllable but strong back end motion.
Just put your favorite layout on it and your set! The balls characteristics will still show no matter what layout's on it.
BUT, I do remember you singing the Anger's praises early in the bowling fall season chi with your stacked layouts. So, what changed?
Read...... http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=172096&ForumID=73&CategoryID=2
and http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=176011&ForumID=73&CategoryID=2
FYI...even though the Hammer forum reference to earlier post purchasing a Blast Zone from a Buddies weekend special in earlier post 715 today in tourney. We'll/I'll cash.
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Edited on 12/2/2007 4:47 PM
Post by: Fatboy8 on December 02, 2007, 03:26:53 PM
This ball is a Hell of a deal, and a very strong ball. It should be around for a long time.
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Post by: agroves on December 02, 2007, 10:15:57 PM
Anyway, I'm looking forward to drilling this ball. I'll probably punch it Wednesday or thursday and post a mini review by the weekend.
Andrew
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Post by: chitown on December 03, 2007, 08:13:03 AM
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BUT, I do remember you singing the Anger's praises early in the bowling fall season chi with your stacked layouts. So, what changed?
Read...... http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=172096&ForumID=73&CategoryID=2
and http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=176011&ForumID=73&CategoryID=2
Scott, my Anger's that were drilled strong rolled awesome. I bought these Anger's at the end of the summer. I was practicing every week in a house that uses a lot of oil and these Anger's worked great. When league started things were a little different. My league uses 4 patterns this season and only one of them is really heavy and long. On this long pattern the Anger performed great! My league also uses another long pattern but the volume of oil is not really heavy. On this pattern I was finding myself always moving to keep it in the pocket. So FATBOY is correct in saying that there just wasn't enough oil for me to get the reaction I wanted from the ball. I should of probably kept both of my Anger's but don't like having too many balls in an arsenal at one time.
I eventually ended up getting rid of all my equipment and bought a new arsenal of balls and a new Anger is one of them. I put a different layout on my new Anger. With this new layout the Anger should be a lot more playable for me on more patterns. I think it was a good decision on my part to buy a new arsenal. My new arsenal already paid for itself last week!
So in closing your right about me singing praises about this ball. The Anger is flat out awesome! Even drilled really strong it's a fun ball to roll. I'm still shocked at how strong this ball is. This ball can handle heavy oil with out any problems.
Edited on 12/3/2007 9:19 AM
Post by: scotts33 on December 03, 2007, 08:26:47 AM
Andrew--Keep us informed.
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Post by: agroves on December 08, 2007, 01:50:51 AM
While I finally got the opportunity to punch it out tonight.
3 3/8s pin to pap
I still have to put a weight hole in it after I throw it Saturday.
MINI review to come!
Andrew
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Post by: Fatboy8 on December 08, 2007, 01:19:34 PM
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Post by: agroves on December 08, 2007, 02:15:22 PM
I ended up using my OI, moving in to 17 and playing alittle swing to 10, shooting an okay 586, missing the hole once the first game...195.
Anyway, after the league got over with I took the Anger back into the shop and put a flare increasing hole on my axis. I took it back down to the Scorpion and had a look with it that I didn't have earlier.
I'm going to try to use it again later today on our house shot. Thus far, I'm pretty impressed by the aggressiveness of this ball.
Andrew
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Post by: themagician on December 08, 2007, 05:15:13 PM
I did use it polished for a while and it was great, very strong arc and a lot of recovery on House Shots.I would have kept it shiny but I needed it to be the strong ball that was rolly for tougher patterns that I do come across, It is by far the most predictable ball I have.
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Post by: agroves on December 08, 2007, 10:51:02 PM
I used it on a pair that was oiled this morning. It had a youth league, bday parties and open play since 8 am. The Anger was strong, predictable and controllable with a very good move in the midlane and was able to hold its roll through the carrydown puddle and carry very well.
After our Saturday night league, I was able to use it on a much fresher pattern. I was 4 boards left of the carrydown pair. It was very good on our house shot. I could move it to 14 or so and hook it alittle. I found the best look on the side of the ball playing a 10-8 swing.
I'm heading to a tourney tomorrow and if I use it, I'll post a review.
Andrew
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Post by: agroves on December 09, 2007, 11:29:11 PM
The tournament director thought it was the house shot. I'm not sure if it was this houses THS or not. I was able to hit the pocket from a few angles with my inferno, but the reaction was weak and anything inside 10 down the lane reacted very soft. I thought you had a small window to carry consistently, but a slightly larger window to get to the pocket. I pulled the Anger out about halfway thru practice and was able to get lined up quickly.
I started looking 13 with a breakpoint at 10 and no further right. My hand position was on the side of the ball. I stayed in this general area for the first 4 games, making minor target or feet moves for carry.
236-268-223-258
The 5th game of qualifying the lanes transitioned into a HUGE wet/dry. I moved deeper and moved my target deeper.
237
The last game, lanes 15/16 my look started to go away. I struggled to find a consistent BP and had my first open of the day in the 6th frame of game 6. I mustarded a 213.
Shooting 1435 for 6 games, thats a 239.16 avg. I made 138 in high game pots and brackets, which I only invested $46 in.
Our doubles team qualified first, but we were unable to maintain and slide all the way to 6th in the finals. Dan and I bowled well, but our carry really went south. I didn't even shoot a 200 in the 4 game match play finals, 184-196-197-188 all with 4/5 single pins a game.
Overall, I walked out with $150 more than my entry costs, which more than paid for my new Anger. The last ball I ever drilled up that impressed me this much was the original inferno. I switched back and forth between the Anger and OI in the finals but I just could kick the 10 out.
Andrew
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Post by: chitown on December 11, 2007, 11:41:18 AM
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The Anger paid for itself today. I normally won't take a ball with me to a tournament unless I've thrown it and know what it likes and dislikes. I decided to take it with me a tourney today, a scratch doubles in a house that I've never bowled in before.(move two pairs right after every game)
The tournament director thought it was the house shot. I'm not sure if it was this houses THS or not. I was able to hit the pocket from a few angles with my inferno, but the reaction was weak and anything inside 10 down the lane reacted very soft. I thought you had a small window to carry consistently, but a slightly larger window to get to the pocket. I pulled the Anger out about halfway thru practice and was able to get lined up quickly.
I started looking 13 with a breakpoint at 10 and no further right. My hand position was on the side of the ball. I stayed in this general area for the first 4 games, making minor target or feet moves for carry.
236-268-223-258
The 5th game of qualifying the lanes transitioned into a HUGE wet/dry. I moved deeper and moved my target deeper.
237
The last game, lanes 15/16 my look started to go away. I struggled to find a consistent BP and had my first open of the day in the 6th frame of game 6. I mustarded a 213.
Shooting 1435 for 6 games, thats a 239.16 avg. I made 138 in high game pots and brackets, which I only invested $46 in.
Our doubles team qualified first, but we were unable to maintain and slide all the way to 6th in the finals. Dan and I bowled well, but our carry really went south. I didn't even shoot a 200 in the 4 game match play finals, 184-196-197-188 all with 4/5 single pins a game.
Overall, I walked out with $150 more than my entry costs, which more than paid for my new Anger. The last ball I ever drilled up that impressed me this much was the original inferno. I switched back and forth between the Anger and OI in the finals but I just could kick the 10 out.
Andrew
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Good shooting Andrew! How does the Anger compare to the OI?
Post by: Fatboy8 on December 11, 2007, 11:43:31 AM
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Post by: agroves on December 11, 2007, 12:37:58 PM
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Good shooting Andrew! How does the Anger compare to the OI?
Side by Side, I'd say the Anger is 4/5 boards stronger. I'll know more this week.
Yes, Brian. I might start migrating to Hammer. I'm looking for a good deal on a Doom. Otherwise I drill one out at the shop, since I only pay cost for equipment.
Andrew
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Post by: Fatboy8 on December 11, 2007, 12:39:24 PM
If you love that OI, you'd really fall in love with a Black Widow by the way.
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Post by: agroves on December 15, 2007, 09:25:39 PM
I used the Anger on our fresh house shot and it was good. Carry was pretty good, but not spectacular. I shot 720 the first 3 and was forced to change balls in the 4th game.
The high school bowlers at this center use the PBA Experience league on Sat mornings. I bowl with a few of them after league occasionally. Today the Scorpion was out. I bowled on this pattern last week, using my OI and shot 589. I didn't have anything with me that would get to the pocket between 8-10. Well, the Anger changed all that.
I bowled two quick games with 3 other people on the pair. I was looking 7 on the right lane and 8 on the left lane. I carried pretty good, leaving only a couple of 10s and shot 470+ for two games.
I continue to be impressed and now I've ordered a Doom to fill in my new love of the Raw Hammer line.
Andrew
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Post by: chitown on December 16, 2007, 07:10:35 PM
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Another little update.
I used the Anger on our fresh house shot and it was good. Carry was pretty good, but not spectacular. I shot 720 the first 3 and was forced to change balls in the 4th game.
The high school bowlers at this center use the PBA Experience league on Sat mornings. I bowl with a few of them after league occasionally. Today the Scorpion was out. I bowled on this pattern last week, using my OI and shot 589. I didn't have anything with me that would get to the pocket between 8-10. Well, the Anger changed all that.
I bowled two quick games with 3 other people on the pair. I was looking 7 on the right lane and 8 on the left lane. I carried pretty good, leaving only a couple of 10s and shot 470+ for two games.
I continue to be impressed and now I've ordered a Doom to fill in my new love of the Raw Hammer line.
Andrew
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I'm glad to read the Anger is working good for you. Wait until you try out the Doom. The Doom is a fantastic ball! The Doom is what got me throwing Hammer.
I think Ebonite has done one hell of a job with the Hammer brand!