I drilled my pin up (above ring) and it is extremely hard off the dry. It's right about 5x5-1/2, even at this weak of a drilling it is still too much for my main house on their THS. They are a light oiler and have clean backends. I wish I had drilled it weaker, maybe pin down and at 5-1/2x5-1/2. But hey that is just me.
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