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SprayNpray

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Soaked my Original Widow...
« on: February 25, 2008, 04:52:28 PM »
And it worked great!  This ball had about 100 games on it and had really taken a shine to it and was skating most of the time.

I gave it a hot water bath and then an application of Clean N Dull.  After that I scuffed it with a grey pad (very lightly).

Then I decided I wanted to re-soak it just in case any more oil came out, and I actually did notice a bit more seepage on the 2nd soak.  I hit it with the grey pad ever so lightly again, and then took it to the lanes.

The ball was back to its old self, which is to say it was back to being a complete monster.  I am so glad I did this- a few years ago I would have thought the ball was done for and gave it away.

I have given this treatment to a few other balls, all with great results.  Don't be afraid to try it!


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Re: Soaked my Original Widow...
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2008, 07:37:08 AM »
The first time I gave a bowling ball the HOT WATER BATH, I couldn't believe the results.  I think it's one of the best way's to get oil out of a balls cover.

I personally don't think ball cleaners can get that much oil out of the balls cover.  I think the best approach is to just give the ball a hot water bath.  Use the cleaner to make the coverstock look nice.

I've thought about giving a ball the HOT WATER BATH after every set.  I bet that would keep the reaction like new everytime you use the ball.

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Re: Soaked my Original Widow...
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2008, 05:52:36 PM »
I have a Black Widow Pearl that I soak in hot water once a week the day before I bowl, then I hit it with Clean N Dull after...I have never heard of anyone using Clean N Dull on this ball but the ball reaction is super...works for me..
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charlest

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Re: Soaked my Original Widow...
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2008, 05:31:46 AM »
SprayNpray,

Was the grey pad (about 800 grit) the level at which you had been using your Black Widow?

I ask because the stock surface is 4000 grit, as far as I remember. Did you take it back up to 4000 or do you use it at 800 grit?
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Re: Soaked my Original Widow...
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2008, 06:12:58 AM »
I found that using a grey pad by hand leaves a very smooth finish... haven't tried the 4000 on a spinner as I have none yet...
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Re: Soaked my Original Widow...
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2008, 09:49:54 AM »
I too finally did a hot water bath with my BW.  I didn't do any scuffing or anything. Mine has already been taken down to 800 abralon.  I was just about writing this ball off as dead.  Still seemed to hit hard, but was pretty much a straight ball.  After the bath, seems like it is back to normal.  Movement very similar to when it was new!  So happy about that.

SprayNpray

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Re: Soaked my Original Widow...
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2008, 11:18:07 AM »
charlest, I did not bring it back to 4000.  All I had at the time was the grey pad and a maroon pad, and I wanted to try the ball at a different surface.  So I used the grey pad and I was very happy with the reaction I got, so I left it there.

Again, I scuffed it very lightly by hand (don't have a spinner).  I have also found many times that balls in the 600-1000 range work very well for me where I bowl.  That said, I knew the box finish was 4000 and so I was trying to use very light pressure so that I didn't change the surface THAT drastically, because I didn't have anything finer with which to scuff.  Being a novice with changing covers, I don't feel qualified to estimate the final finish when I was done with the whole process, but I think it is safe to say it was somewhere between 4000 and 1000 (I know, wide range).

I was swinging the Widow across the lane, around 35 (feet) to 20 (arrows) to 7-8 (breakpoint), when a couple days before on the same shot I was playing around 12-8 and the ball was struggling to make it back to the pocket.  After the soak, I was getting a reaction that was dead nuts on with the reaction I got out-of-box.
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Re: Soaked my Original Widow...
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2008, 02:54:40 PM »
You used an 800 grit pad, but you used very light pressure to obtain a finish somewhere between 1000 and 4000 grit?  That's a very neat trick!  I'll have to tell my brother about that.  He does auto paint work.  I'll tell him to forget buying different grits, just use different pressure.   Ha!  Forget using 2000 grit paper, just use 800 and press very lightly!
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charlest

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Re: Soaked my Original Widow...
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2008, 04:42:27 PM »
SprayNpray,

I understand what you're saying and where you're coming from on this matter.

However, since you're going from a 4000 grit finish to a, shall we say intermediate level one, possibly around 1500 grit, I am of the opinion that you do not know if you're oil extraction process was truly successful.

If you sanded an oil soaked 4000 grit BW to 1200 - 1500 grit, you MAY get the same results. I am not sure.

The only thing I am sure of is if you sanded your BW back to 4000 grit and got a good reaction, THEN I would say your oil extraction was successfull.

In any case, I am glad you are gettinjg good use of the BW, It is an unqualified GREAT ball.
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SprayNpray

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Re: Soaked my Original Widow...
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2008, 05:41:33 PM »
RealBowler, thanks for the sarcasm.  Maybe you missed the part where I mentioned that I am a novice when it comes to changing surfaces.  I was simply trying to share my experience with everyone else here in the hopes that it might help someone.  I thought that was the point of this place- to create an atmosphere of learning rather than an atmosphere of ridicule- sorry if I am misinformed.

My thought process was that if you changed the amount of pressure when you are changing the surface of a ball, your results WILL vary, which is why it is important to use the same technique every time.  I am certain I have read that discussion on this board on different occasions.

charlest- You do have a point.  I am not totally sure whether the reason for my results was the different surface or the hot water treatment.  To finish the experiment, I will go in tonight and ask my proshop guy to take the Widow back up to 4000 so I can compare the reaction to what I saw the other day.  If that doesn't work, back to my grey pad, which was easy enough the first time.

Also, thank you for your input.


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