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ShermDawg

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Black Widow Bite
« on: December 14, 2007, 05:05:55 AM »
Hammerheads!

the Bite is up on the site

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looks pretty sweet... lookin forward to throwin one


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Re: Black Widow Bite
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2007, 09:00:48 PM »
Kind of sounds like they are doing to the Widow Series what Ebonite did with the One Series.  The One had the GB10.7 cover.  The Big One had the same core but a GB 11.2 cover.  Then they went pearl with the Angular One.  Seems Hammer is going in the same direction.
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Re: Black Widow Bite
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2007, 01:36:03 PM »
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Kind of sounds like they are doing to the Widow Series what Ebonite did with the One Series.  The One had the GB10.7 cover.  The Big One had the same core but a GB 11.2 cover.  Then they went pearl with the Angular One.  Seems Hammer is going in the same direction.
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Good insight Steve.... I just hope that the balls don't perform like The One series, which was the best one was probably the first release.


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Re: Black Widow Bite
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2007, 07:01:06 PM »
The name is stupid. I like the theme, but why not take my advise and promote the "Brown Recluse". It would be the most bad arse ball ever.

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Re: Black Widow Bite
« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2007, 07:03:45 PM »
I think the One series is a bit different than the Widow series is thus far, but similarities do pop up.. the main difference is the release of each specific type of Widow compared to the One , and at what time each was or is released... each series is in order of release first to most recent

The One Series :

the One (Solid Reactive)

The Big One (Solid reactive)

The Infinite One (solid Reactive)

The Angular One (Reactive Pearl)

The widow Series:

Black Widow (Solid Reactive)

Widow Pearl (self explanatory)

Black Widow Bite (Solid Reactive)


if it is meant that it is going to be similar in that there will be more solid's than pearl in the line, that is looking to be obviously true

the releases are quite different so far because the one series didnt have a pearl till the very end.. so it will be interesting to see what can or will happen after the Bite for the Widow series if a particle pearl, particle pearl/solid hybrid or maybe a Hybrid Pearl Solid Reactive... who knows... there are many different directions to go.. we just have to wait and see, but the anticipation is always high when the ball says Hammer on it!

still cant wait for the BITE



but that is too far in the future because honestly I cant wait to get my hands on a Bite... sounds like another big winner from Hammer...





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Re: Black Widow Bite
« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2007, 08:20:38 PM »
Brown recluse sounds good on paper...and it goes well with the "spider" theme...but really...you'd almost have to make it brown and...a brown bowling ball? gross. wouldn't exactly have great shelf appeal.

as for the name i really like it and for those who don't...there's been far worse...blast zone, robo rule, weapon of mass bias? Black widow bite is far more impressive than these at least! and there's more!

No matter the name, no matter the color though, Hammer is on a roll, and I'm sure they won't be dissapointing us anytime soon!

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The name is stupid. I like the theme, but why not take my advise and promote the "Brown Recluse". It would be the most bad arse ball ever.

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Re: Black Widow Bite
« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2007, 04:09:17 AM »
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The key is not how much it hooks but when to use it. Lets see how many league bowlers try to use the new BWB on a 36ft house shot and have to polish it to keep it on the pocket side. Most could spend less on a Vibe and win more points or money.

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Good point, and not only true for the BWB or any Hammer ball. Rather a general phenomenon.
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Re: Black Widow Bite
« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2007, 05:00:18 PM »
The brown recluse put a 2 inch hole in my late father's calf muscle, they are more dangerous but the color brown does them in hahaha



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The name is stupid. I like the theme, but why not take my advise and promote the "Brown Recluse". It would be the most bad arse ball ever.

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Re: Black Widow Bite
« Reply #38 on: December 26, 2007, 05:06:08 PM »
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and to yoshii... 250 games is quite a bit to be put on a ball ... you gotta think of it as like a set of tires for a car, once the tread wears down to a certain point, the tires are gonna have to be replaced... same with bowling balls, the absorption rate of coverstocks now and the volume of oil that is used in general is higher to go hand in hand with the everchanging bowling ball technology...



i disagree, i have bowling balls with over a thousand games on them and they still react just as good as when they were new, every ball i have has over 250 games on them and they havent changed in reaction either, maybe im just a lucky person that has 8 bowling balls that react the same as when they are new or maybe the company i use has longer lasting coverstocks, but 250 games should not kill a balls reaction
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Re: Black Widow Bite
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2007, 01:55:06 PM »
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and to yoshii... 250 games is quite a bit to be put on a ball ... you gotta think of it as like a set of tires for a car, once the tread wears down to a certain point, the tires are gonna have to be replaced... same with bowling balls, the absorption rate of coverstocks now and the volume of oil that is used in general is higher to go hand in hand with the everchanging bowling ball technology...



i disagree, i have bowling balls with over a thousand games on them and they still react just as good as when they were new, every ball i have has over 250 games on them and they havent changed in reaction either, maybe im just a lucky person that has 8 bowling balls that react the same as when they are new or maybe the company i use has longer lasting coverstocks, but 250 games should not kill a balls reaction
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Should a ball die at 250 games? NO, but in todays world its not unlikely.  But, here is another couple of thoughts, A: the person is board with the ball ans sees other ppl with newer stuff out hooking it... so its SEEMS dead.
Or B: this from my personal experience, the ball still gets to the pocket, but without the same pop when it does.  I had a Vapor Zone that you could not pry out of my hands with a torch and a crow bar, but out of the blue I started leaving 10 pin after 10 pin after 10 pin.. Well at this point I got irritated and noticed that I had to creep about 2 boards right to get higher on the head to get the strikes I was used to in that house.  Well I noticed it in another house aswell, so I took it to the rejuvinator for a while, it leaked purple oil for hours on end.  When it was all said and done, took it back and it was like new again AND no TEN Pins!  So I didn't experience death per say, but lost some performance.   To each his own, and I'm sure there will be many who say they never dealt with it, and I was one of them.  But I have come to realize that its not about the reaction shape as much as the increase friction in the backs that I was not noticibly missing.

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Re: Black Widow Bite
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2007, 08:55:31 PM »

Plan and simple: solids lose performance quickly... much faster than pearls. It's not a specific brand; they all die, some slower than others, but they all bite the dust.

I can think of a bunch --- Track Freak, Track EMB, Absolute Interno, Columbia Icon, Black Widow -- that lost their hookability for me. I was able to restore the Tracks, but not much success with the Widow or Inferno. And the 200 game mark seems to be the magic number for the newer solids.


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Re: Black Widow Bite
« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2007, 06:51:53 AM »
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maybe they will fix the original solid's problem of life span. mine died out after about 250 games or so. i clean it, oven bleed out, and everything. im looking forward to it at least.
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Maybe you just bought an Ebonite made product.....(serious)

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If you got 250 out of it, they have really improved their stuff.

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Re: Black Widow Bite
« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2007, 02:22:33 PM »
There is alot of hype concerning the Black Widow Bite, and until we see it on the lanes that is all it is.  Yet to say that it is the same thing as the Black widow, is to be very narrow minded.  

They come out with the widow and it has a refreshed big deal weight block and a new cover, and people love the ball.  Then they come out with a pearl version.  People see that it is pearl, polished, and reacts very differently on the lanes, and that ball becomes a big seller too.  Now they come out with another solid, with the same block and a new cover that sounds like a tweaked version of the origional widow cover.  Since there is no statistical report of the difference between this ball and the widow (i.e. difference in differential), we don't know how different the ball is.

That being said, there have been tremendous differences created by tweaking the cover of a ball.  I'm certainly going to take a look at this ball in the widow series.  Personally I like when both the cover and the core are tweaked, but I'm not going to write off the bite because it is only the cover.  (The only reason that I like this is that sometimes a change in a cover makes the ball more agressive, but also makes the ball burn up quicker.  By raising the rg by adding a larger flip cap, the ball can get down the lane and make up more on the back instead of up front, but it remains to be seen how much early friction the bite creates and whether the core can maintain enough energy through the fronts.)
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