Post by: mrbowlingnut on August 08, 2007, 08:23:59 AM
In fact he said that they keep it fresh and each company is trying to out do each other by each doing it's own research and development. That ball test data from these tests are not shared with other brand managers and the brand managers are not told in advance of the other brands even having a test.
So there you have it no sharing of information and competition between themselves which is good for the Track,Columbia, Hammer and the Ebonite lovers.
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Post by: nextbowler on August 08, 2007, 04:52:06 PM
deal on. Let me get this straight--The mother company would not force
a subsidiary to share some technological improvements with its sister
companies? Common sense.
Post by: mrbowlingnut on August 08, 2007, 04:57:13 PM
Post by: nextbowler on August 08, 2007, 05:04:21 PM
Keeping secrets in new technology from companies under your
corporate umbrella makes no sense.
Post by: mrbowlingnut on August 08, 2007, 05:12:30 PM
That is why nobody from Ebonite/Hammer bothers with you guys, i love all the people that slam even when they get answer that do not like.
This site has gone from being pretty good site to a bunch of wienies with there heads stuck up somewhere, yes that is directed at naysayers that have no clue about when they are given real information.
Post by: nextbowler on August 08, 2007, 09:43:03 PM
is inferior and wants so badly to be important. He passes whatever little
gossip he hears. Sir, you are irrelevant. Now your sop is to start calling
names and insulting--go ahead. Most people have your number. Buy and sell
a ball, everyone will love you again.
Post by: 302efi on August 08, 2007, 09:45:52 PM
Ebonite says you need to buy every new Ebonite, Columbia, Track & Hammer ball that comes out because they all have a differnt cover....
LOL if you beleive they are all different...
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on August 09, 2007, 11:06:47 AM
So i guess every cover over the last 10 years is this same and everyone on here is an idiot for ever buying anything from the same company or from other companies that share the same owners.
Maybe you guy's should all make this bible reviews and go have a big group hug, sounds to me like zoobowling is a rep that was canned. Zoobowling is basically admitting he lied to people to keep his job for years, you should print an article telling everyone about all the lies for us.
Post by: KDawg77 on August 09, 2007, 11:12:08 AM
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Post by: mainzer on August 09, 2007, 12:26:45 PM
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Post by: nextbowler on August 09, 2007, 05:52:25 PM
you are.
Post by: charlest on August 09, 2007, 06:08:03 PM
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Funny you say that, because I was on Ebonite's national staff for 8 years and tested the initial Hammer brand when it was re-introduced. You can say they are not sharing covers, when the only real fact is that they are not sharing names. As long as the resins are coming from and being poured by the same company, the covers are all from the same family.
You can have three pitchers of Orange Tang, and add a little more or a little less sugar to each one, but it's still Tang. And its still the same formula, some a little sweeter, some a little weaker.
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From "Mikey's" profile:
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It sounds like you're doing your "educating" from high atop the tower of pessimism and bitterness.
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Post by: charlest on August 09, 2007, 06:10:25 PM
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Mr.Nut--No matter what you say, you have been exposed as the idiot that
you are.
nextbowler,
From your posts I have seen in this thread, what a sad, sad life you must live! I feel sorry for you. You're not revealing any truths; you just trying to bring us your level of extreme cynicism.
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Post by: mainzer on August 09, 2007, 06:56:08 PM
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Post by: nextbowler on August 09, 2007, 07:18:10 PM
giving it away nextdoor.
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Post by: charlest on August 09, 2007, 07:44:35 PM
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Charl---My life is great, thank you. I just don't buy sunshine when they are
giving it away nextdoor.
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Sunshine is always free; it's yours to accept or reject.
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Post by: chitown on August 10, 2007, 12:29:08 AM
It just doesn't make much sense that each company would act completely separate from each other and not share info.
I personally don't care one way or the other. I will use equipment from all companies except Brunswick.
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Post by: chitown on August 10, 2007, 12:42:56 AM
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To add to my Tag Team partner's comments,
Track HAS been and WILL continue on the forefront in technology and high performance equipment. We were never known for how good our "dry" lane equipment was but rather the strength in equipment we could provide to the public. This is where Ron H and Randy T shine! You folks wouldn't even believe me if I told you how many veneers (thanks to Randy T) we have at Ebonite and how far advanced Ron H is in core design and what he has planned for the future of Track.
Our goal is to bring to you guys the best possible reactions that work on today's conditions to help give all of you Track fans the advantage that you deserve.
Carl and I not only being under Tech Support will also have quite a bit of input as to what our future Track pieces should look like. Please feel free to tell us what "YOU" want and we'll do what we can to provide the BEST of the BEST to you!! Thank you for being a loyal Legion member....
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Just thought I would paste this from the Track forum. He mentions that Ron H from Ebonite has a lot of veneers over at Ebonite.
He's talking about Track using Ebonites technology and resins for their new coverstocks.
Listen Ebonite is the parent company. Their going to share their coverstock technology with Track, Hammer and Columbia. If someone has told you otherwise are playing you for a fool. The reason I say this is because it wouldn't make any sense for them not too share coverstocks. Of course they may tweak them hear and there.
Chances are PBA pro P.Allen would match up well with Hammer, Columbia and the new Track because he matches up with Ebonite.
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on August 10, 2007, 11:05:07 AM
So tweaking yes that would be a great call, exact cover's on each ball that is doubtful. Morich does the same thing he tweaks different Brunswick cover's to his liking, again i had a direct conversation with him about this at the Eliminator 2 years ago.
So maybe it is marketing and all lie's possible sure, Zoobowling is not bothering me at all.
Nextbowler is local moron that we actually know each other and hate each other's guts to be honest, i would do something but the jerk is 65 years old and gets off screwing with me on here.
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Post by: strikingresults-atl on August 10, 2007, 12:58:01 PM
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