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lilphyzx

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doom losing effect
« on: May 30, 2006, 12:01:37 AM »
Hey fellas I have a doom and have had it for about 4 months or so. Have used it on  a bunch of various conditions. I usually clean it after each use but it has started to loose its effectiveness. It used to hook out the door but now it has tamed down a bunch and has soaked in some oil. How can I get it back to its original state. Anybody else out there experience this. Im kind of suprised it has soaked up so much oil.

 

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Re: doom losing effect
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2006, 08:07:01 AM »
"Lil",
 I would email Hammer on the HAMMER website; maybe they are already aware of some issues and most likely can make some recommendations.
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Re: doom losing effect
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2006, 10:57:29 AM »
You say you have cleaned it regularly, but it could also need to be repolished if you've had it for four months.  I might take it to the shop and have them resand it to box finish (1000 grit, I believe) and hit it with Ebonite Factory Finish polish.
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Re: doom losing effect
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2006, 11:11:21 AM »
Hey  bud I don't know why your Doom has lost some of it's reaction.  I have 4 Dooms now.  I have 1 of my Dooms that has well over 200 games on it.  This is what I do to keep up my Doom.

The Doom I have in it's box condition is the Doom that has over 200 games on it.  I clean the ball after every 3 game set using Ebonites energizer cleaner.  I apply this by hand with a towel.  I then polish my Doom after every 6 games with Ebonites factory finish polish.  I use a ball spinner for this but you could do it by hand.  This process has kept the ball looking like it did when it was new.  The ball also reacts just like it did when it was new.

I have noticed that with all balls it takes about 10 games for the ball to settle down and give a consistent reaction.  Usually when a ball is new it is a little more jumpy then settle down.  I know this is not what your talking about.

I suggest that you give your Doom a small resurface job.  You will need a ball spinner.  If you don't have one bring it to your pro shop that you use.  Have your pro shop guy resurface the ball but make sure he uses Ebonites factory finish polish to get it back to OOB condition.  I would bring a bottle with you in case he doesn't have it.

If you have a ball spinner just do this.  Dull the surface to 600 grit going down in steps.  1000 grit, 800 grit and then 600 grit.  Then go back up to 800 grit then 1000 grit.  After you do the dulling of the surface then apply the factory finish polish.  This should do the job for you.

You are the second person that I know of that has had problems with a loss of reaction with the Doom.  I can't answer the question of why.

I have 4 Dooms and have never had any problems with a loss of reaction with any of them.  I have 2 Dooms that have the oob cover.  1 of those has 200+ games on it and the other is new.  My other 2 Dooms have many games on them as well but the covers are dulled to 1000 grit then polished with Ebonites matte polish.  Those balls perform really well.

I hope this helps and let me know if it doesn't work for you.

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Re: doom losing effect
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2006, 05:23:55 PM »
I was hoping they would come out with the "gloom", but they called it the "pain".

 Just think, a two ball duo called "Gloom & Doom".  Chi would be all over that one.(lol)
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Re: doom losing effect
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2006, 11:13:43 PM »
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I was hoping they would come out with the "gloom", but they called it the "pain".

 Just think, a two ball duo called "Gloom & Doom".  Chi would be all over that one.(lol)
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That would be cool.  How about Dooms Day!  That would have been a cool name for another Raw Hammer.

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Re: doom losing effect
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2006, 09:15:58 AM »
Dooms day should be the next doom name. That sounds sweet. I will do what you said with the doom but for now it has turned into a hard hitting control ball and is giving me a real unique look to the pocket without as much hook. I have two high revs that are stronger than it right now so it is starting to become a stair step from the others. Now the High rev is another hammer ball that is absolutely GREAT. You would like those CHitown. I liked it so much i bought another one new.

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Re: doom losing effect
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2006, 10:39:59 PM »
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Dooms day should be the next doom name. That sounds sweet. I will do what you said with the doom but for now it has turned into a hard hitting control ball and is giving me a real unique look to the pocket without as much hook. I have two high revs that are stronger than it right now so it is starting to become a stair step from the others. Now the High rev is another hammer ball that is absolutely GREAT. You would like those CHitown. I liked it so much i bought another one new.


Hey if any of you guys find a med oil ball that you really like then set up a small arsenal of them drilled differently and with cover changes.  You may find that it will become the best arsenal you have ever had.

Bud there are many different hammer balls I would love to try out but I need to draw the line some where.  I do want to buy the pain just to see how it compares to my Dooms.  I may also buy a couple other hammer balls this fall depending how much cash I can make bowling this next season.

On a side note I wanted to give my view on ball arsenals.  When it comes to setting up a ball arsenal the idea is to get different reactions and oil handling capabilities from the different balls.  That is the gist of it.

Well when I first threw the Doom I was floored.  This ball reacted and carried great.  So I decided that I would buy several of them and change the covers and layouts to see how much different the reactions would be from the same ball.  What I didn't expect was how well this ball performed to the different layouts and cover changes.  So as many of you know I have built an entire arsenal of Dooms.  

So again if you guys find a ball that is in the med oil area buy a few of them and build a small arsenal.  You may be surprised at how well an arsenal of the same ball will work.  

Also a reactive pearl ball is a great type of ball to use for an arsenal like this.  Reactive pearl balls can usually handle some dry lanes and when dulled can handle heavier oil.  This will allow one to cover a wide amount of conditions from the same ball.

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Re: doom losing effect
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2006, 04:02:15 PM »
The only time I have a loss of reaction with my Doom, is when I forget to clean it. It seems that these new super-slick lane oils have a tendency to attach themselves onto the cover of my pearl balls, regardless of the name brand.

Over a number of games, I have noticed an amber colored build-up on the ball surfaces. If not cleaned off, it definitely detracts from your ball reaction.
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Re: doom losing effect
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2006, 10:14:44 AM »
I appreciate the info. My doom has become sort of a hard hitting hard ball. So I have decided to just about leave it the way it is and use it for drier conditions.  I have other stuff that hooked somewhat like it on the backend so I will just use those. What do you guys think the best cleaner out there is for equipment now days.

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Re: doom losing effect
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2006, 12:19:51 AM »
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I appreciate the info. My doom has become sort of a hard hitting hard ball. So I have decided to just about leave it the way it is and use it for drier conditions.  I have other stuff that hooked somewhat like it on the backend so I will just use those. What do you guys think the best cleaner out there is for equipment now days.


Tracks clean and dull is supposed to be a great strong ball cleaner.  I personally use Ebonites energizer cleaner only.  I don't see the need for any other cleaners because the energizer cleaner has worked great ever since I bought my Dooms.  It doesn't kill the reaction of the ball like some cleaners can.  It also is very easy to work with.  It comes in a spray bottle.  Just spray and wipe with a clean towle and you will be good to go.

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Re: doom losing effect
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2006, 07:45:32 AM »
Im going to go grab some. But with all the stuff coming out now days I can see my leaving the doom the way it is, and buying a pain or black widow. Or just say the heck with both and bring my big blue pearl out of retirement.