alright with the other thread that had the specs for the onyx vibe (i call them by the color, not the fancy name) i have already started going over whether to get this one.

i have a blue vibe currently with a 2" pin to PAP. so it is early and controllable and great for sport shots. OOB finish

http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww196/twitch9_4off/bowling%20balls/0312092107.jpg

i have another blue vibe in the basement i was going to punch up this summer and put a ton of surface on it so it can handle more oil and smooth out the backend on sport shots.

my impression of the Black vibe is that it will be a similar to the blue one except stronger and maybe a bit earlier because of the CT plus.

my question is should i go with the blue vibe i have in the basement and drill it as planned with a ton of surface and not get the black vibe OR should i put the blue vibe in something like a 5" pin to make it be longer than blue vibe #1 AND get the black vibe and drill it similar to blue vibe #1 and maybe put a little surface on it?

sorry if this is confusing and thanks in advance for the help.
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HG:300x2(SR300 both)
HS:792(SR300)
2004 NYSPHSAA team champions
2007 NYSPHSAA individual high game(300) and series(1411-6 games)
arsenal: sauce rival arch rival dead flush blue vibe scout jazz SR300 plastic
sacred heart university bowling, frosh.
greatest accomplishment:shooting 603 and not shooting one 200 game(130,173,300)...lol
p.s. go leftys

what is this black vibe . do you have a pic?

Now we need to decipher which cover CT Reactive Plus is. (If we allow the assumption that Hammer would not develop a new cover at this price point.) The coverstock from the Toxic trickled down to the Emerald Vibe, perhaps this is the solid cover of the Anger and maybe even the Black Widow Solid?
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http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a63/slap1914/bowling/

I didn't see a release date on the Vibe but The Raw Burn is to be release June 16th so I would think it would be the same.