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graffixjones

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What's a good Hammer ball for an advanced beginner?
« on: September 04, 2006, 08:34:52 AM »
Howdy everybody.
I've been lurking around here the past couple days doing research on bowling balls, and now that I've narrowed down my selection, I figured I'd just jump in and start asking the important questions.

Anyway, I've been into bowling for quite a while, and finally took a class through my college for five months that taught the basics, then the rest of the semester we competed league-style.  I didn't do too bad, as my team came in second place by one game, and my average was about 167-169 (trying to remember).
I'm a pretty decent straight bowler, and my high game was a 207.

However, I recently got a job at the local alley as a pinsetter mechanic, and I figure I'll be putting in a lot more bowling time, so I want to learn how to bowl 'for real'.

I consider myself an advanced beginner, and have been looking at balls that I found would be a good fit for me.  I currently have a 10-year-old Brunswick Axis ball (Polyester), and want to get something new that's a bit more reactive, and have pretty much settled on the Hammer Doom.  

Would this be a good choice for somebody learning to hook the ball?
I was also looking at the driling specs at Hammer's site, and was curious as to which drilling setup would be best for an advanced beginner?
Hammer's drilling specs: http://www.hammerbowling.com/tech_info/detail.php?drilling=Drilling%20Instructions%202

Thanks for any advice. It's much appreciated.

 

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Re: What's a good Hammer ball for an advanced beginner?
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2006, 05:39:28 PM »
Okay, now it's time to throw in a twist.

I went by the proshop today and talked to our resident pro... the first thing he said when I started explaining what I was looking for was "Let me say one thing right off the bat, all these balls are the same." (referring to everything in the shop).  The point he was making was that although each of the balls has a different potential, 90% of what the ball does is attributed to the bowler and how the ball is set up.

As luck would have it, he had just gotten in a shipment of Hammer balls (I guess they stock more than I thought), and had both a Blue Vibe and a Pain in the back room.  He also has a Doom on order which should be received in a couple of days.  His opinion was that I should get a ball that will grow with me, rather than getting a ball I would outgrow in a few months, and thus he recommended either a Doom or Pain in the class of ball i was looking for.  He then said he could tailor the ball as the need arises, though he recommended a maximum flare drill and the stock rough polish to start, then we could try different polishes to add length if needed.

He quoted me about $120 for either the Doom or Pain with drilling, thumb slug, etc., which sounds pretty good to me considering they're about $100 online... so I think that's the direction I'm leaning now.

I will say that the Vibe felt really nice, and you can definitely feel the difference between that ball and the Pain as far as cover construction.  The Vibe was a very shiny polish, and the Pain was a very rough matte finish (almost 'sticky' feeling).

Thanks again to all of you for your input.

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Re: What's a good Hammer ball for an advanced beginner?
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2006, 05:57:34 PM »
Just a quick question.  If, as the guy says, "all these balls are the same", how are you going to "outgrow" a ball?

  Yes, the doom and the pain are a little higher performance than the vibe, but that was what you asked.  "What is a good ball for an advanced beginner?

  At first, you probably won't be able to tell much difference, and especially if you end up with a pain and have to polish it. Then, it too, will have the "sticky" feel of polished resin.

  If you want to go with the doom or the pain, the price he's quoting you is great, but all these balls are definitely NOT the same
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graffixjones

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Re: What's a good Hammer ball for an advanced beginner?
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2006, 06:07:34 PM »
Yeah, I thought the 'all these balls are the same' comment was rather odd too.  I think he was mainly referring to the fact that he could set up each ball to perform pretty close to the same depending on how he drilled and polished it, but of course I'm not privy to his private thoughts... just my best guess.


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Re: What's a good Hammer ball for an advanced beginner?
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2006, 06:24:41 PM »
An advanced beginner?  Isnt that an oxymoron?
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Re: What's a good Hammer ball for an advanced beginner?
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2006, 06:36:21 PM »
LOL.

Well, I would consider intermediate somebody that already knew how to hook the ball, but was looking for something to fit their particular style.

A beginner would be somebody just learning how to bowl.

Since I fell in between, and there doesn't seem to be a word in the English language that falls between beginner and intermediate, I figured 'advanced beginner' would suffice... but you're right, in normal English that would indeed be an oxymoron.

In other words, adding the word 'advanced' in front of 'beginner' makes me feel like less of a schmuck.

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Re: What's a good Hammer ball for an advanced beginner?
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2006, 10:46:43 PM »
I would go back and ask him if he had any used balls that he could do a good deal on for you. This will allow you to get a feel for what you are doing without breaking the bank. Right now the ball doesn't have as much to do with it as learning the technique does. Later on when you are comfortable with the technique and have developed a "style" it will be easier for you and the proshop guy to determine what ball with be most benificial.
 Just my 2 cents....  Good luck and bowl great.
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