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Gene J Kanak

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BWB: Anyone take the surface down?
« on: January 19, 2008, 04:20:50 AM »
OK, I thought I had at least average and probably a bit more than average revs, but maybe I was wrong because I find my Bite to be too long for my liking. Don't get me wrong, the ball is definitely stronger than the original, and it offers a very nice move, but I still find them to be a bit too close in reaction.

I'm wondering, has anyone tried taking the surface of the bite down to 1000 or 2000? My thought is to try the surface at one of those two grits and maybe to apply some shine on top. I think that will give me more midlane read and separation between the original and the Bite because right now I'm not seeing a substantial difference.

Any thoughts? You can check my profile for my specs if you'd like. I'm curious to read your input.
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Re: BWB: Anyone take the surface down?
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2008, 12:31:38 PM »
I guess this means no trade from your other post about the Levrg i answered you about ??

Gene J Kanak

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Re: BWB: Anyone take the surface down?
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2008, 12:41:59 PM »
mrbowlingnut, message sent

Also, if there is anyone else that I have failed to respond to (hopefully not) regarding the Bite, please message me. I have done my best to respond to all, but with over 100 messages in a week's time, I fear I must have missed a few of you. It certainly is nothing personal. Again, if you've been missed, please don't hesitate to message me.
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Re: BWB: Anyone take the surface down?
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2008, 12:55:23 PM »
I have one its tooken down to 2000 then polished this ball no question is 5-7 boards stronger than the solid which i have as well the bite handles the carrydown better and the bite allows me to move more left if needed
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Re: BWB: Anyone take the surface down?
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2008, 02:22:04 PM »

I have taken mine down to 2000 and yes, much more midlane read and a more consistant reaction in the midlane and the backend as a result. Much improved.
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Gene J Kanak

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Re: BWB: Anyone take the surface down?
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2008, 12:52:21 AM »
Update:

Well, over the past week I've tried every surface combo I could think of on this ball, and tonight I finally saw at least some positive result. In the end, I wound up taking the ball down to 500 abralon and then applying one light coating of Brunswick High Gloss. This made the ball read the pattern a bit sooner while still offerning a very strong, sweeping arc on the backend. I managed 767, which would have been 780 had I not thrown a remarkably poor shot after starting the final game with the front 10.

Anyhow, with my speed, I'm still having no problem getting the ball down the lane. All in all, I still think that it might be time for this ball to go bye-bye. It's a fine piece of gear, but it's just not different enough from my original Widow, even at this low grit.
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Re: BWB: Anyone take the surface down?
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2008, 08:56:53 AM »
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Update:

Well, over the past week I've tried every surface combo I could think of on this ball, and tonight I finally saw at least some positive result. In the end, I wound up taking the ball down to 500 abralon and then applying one light coating of Brunswick High Gloss.......  It's a fine piece of gear, but it's just not different enough from my original Widow, even at this low grit.




I could see that result if they are both polished. As a solid, the Bite's back end it really a lot stronger. The polish would probably mute that unique performance as a solid.


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Re: BWB: Anyone take the surface down?
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2008, 09:14:49 AM »
My reaction to the Bite and it's characteristics are my own fault. Hammer advertised the ball as being stronger on the backend and with more overall hook. I took that to mean that it would dig in harder. Unfortunately, what I've found is that the original Widow and the Bite get very, very similar length, with the bite grinding in harder on the backend only. I was hoping to use the Bite on heavier patterns to get an earlier read when the original was a bit too long/late. Again, my fault.

Still, I don't want to give anyone the wrong idea. The Bite is a fine bowling ball that can give you a great look on the lanes. Personally, I just don't see enough difference between it my original to suit my desires, at least not out of box. That is why I tweaked the cover. Now I at least have some difference in terms of read, roll, and reaction.
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Re: BWB: Anyone take the surface down?
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2008, 09:38:05 AM »
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My reaction to the Bite and it's characteristics are my own fault. Hammer advertised the ball as being stronger on the backend and with more overall hook. I took that to mean that it would dig in harder. Unfortunately, what I've found is that the original Widow and the Bite get very, very similar length, with the bite grinding in harder on the backend only. I was hoping to use the Bite on heavier patterns to get an earlier read when the original was a bit too long/late....


Maybe it's your speed... I seem to recall that you throw the ball pretty hard. For me the Bite is a earlier and much stronger. In the heads it plays like a No Mercy -- something that I could not use without fresh oil.

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Edited on 1/22/2008 8:52 PM
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Re: BWB: Anyone take the surface down?
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2008, 02:29:40 PM »
quote:
Update:

Well, over the past week I've tried every surface combo I could think of on this ball, and tonight I finally saw at least some positive result. In the end, I wound up taking the ball down to 500 abralon and then applying one light coating of Brunswick High Gloss. This made the ball read the pattern a bit sooner while still offerning a very strong, sweeping arc on the backend. I managed 767, which would have been 780 had I not thrown a remarkably poor shot after starting the final game with the front 10.

Anyhow, with my speed, I'm still having no problem getting the ball down the lane. All in all, I still think that it might be time for this ball to go bye-bye. It's a fine piece of gear, but it's just not different enough from my original Widow, even at this low grit.
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What about just taken the cover down to 2000 grit and WITHOUT polish?  Heck even at 1000 grit abraloin it should be a lot earlier than when polished.

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Re: BWB: Anyone take the surface down?
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2008, 04:19:13 PM »
yeah my bite is 2000 and my bws is 1000 then polished the bite to me handles more oil but is not as flippy has the bws the bite is  a good ball but i still favor the solid more
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Re: BWB: Anyone take the surface down?
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2008, 07:44:00 AM »
The Bite is so much more predictible at 2000. I don't know why they didn';t release them at 2000 no polish. It isn't as jumpy and is just a better all around look in my opinion.

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Re: BWB: Anyone take the surface down?
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2008, 07:58:44 AM »
1000 grit and polish or 4000 grit and polish.  I have never seen a difference between the two.  Both balls are finished with polish.  I don't think the grit under the polish makes much difference.