Norm Duke

Depends on your definition of stroker.  I don't think there are any successful pro bowlers with less than 225 rpms.  There are a lot of guys who play the gutter like Norm Duke, Walter Ray, Parker Bohn, Haugen, Pepe and Scroggins.  But at the same time, they have a decent rev rate.

I think the closest is Duke, but I have crossed with him when he was playing left of center wheeling the whole lane.

I think in reality, Liz Johnson is the closest.

 
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I too have crossed with Duke. Also with Walter Ray, Bohn, Haugen, and Scroggins. All these guys have decent rev rates. Actually being on the lanes with them vs. just seeing them on TV gives you a completely different perspective. 

Michael Haugen, Andrew Cain, Scott Norton and Aaron Lorincz I would all consider strokers. Even still, they have way higher revrates than an average league bowler and much better speed management in order to hook it when they need to.

Quote from: DP3 on January 07, 2017, 04:06:32 PM

Michael Haugen, Andrew Cain, Scott Norton and Aaron Lorincz I would all consider strokers. Even still, they have way higher revrates than an average league bowler and much better speed management in order to hook it when they need to.

I'd throw Anthony Pepe and Martin Larsen in there as well, but as you said, even he'd have a higher rev rate than most league bowlers.

for a true stroker, you're looking at some of the older guys: Duke, Voss, Husted, Dave Arnold.

BL.

 
Duke and Voss in particular can play effectively off the left gutter when needed. A few years ago at the Senior Masters I watched Duke struggle one game playing off the right gutter, and then move off the left gutter the next game to throw a 300. The point is these guys are not "strokers" in any sense of what most bowlers would understand.
 
The closest to stroker in your list is Dave Arnold. I've crossed with him in Regionals a few times, and his rev rate is closer to mine than any of the other bowlers you referenced. 

Quote from: bradl on January 09, 2017, 02:25:18 PM

Quote from: DP3 on January 07, 2017, 04:06:32 PM

Michael Haugen, Andrew Cain, Scott Norton and Aaron Lorincz I would all consider strokers. Even still, they have way higher revrates than an average league bowler and much better speed management in order to hook it when they need to.

I'd throw Anthony Pepe and Martin Larsen in there as well, but as you said, even he'd have a higher rev rate than most league bowlers.

for a true stroker, you're looking at some of the older guys: Duke, Voss, Husted, Dave Arnold.

BL.

 
Duke and Voss in particular can play effectively off the left gutter when needed. A few years ago at the Senior Masters I watched Duke struggle one game playing off the right gutter, and then move off the left gutter the next game to throw a 300. The point is these guys are not "strokers" in any sense of what most bowlers would understand.
 
The closest to stroker in your list is Dave Arnold. I've crossed with him in Regionals a few times, and his rev rate is closer to mine than any of the other bowlers you referenced. 

Then we should just go ultimate stroker, with Gary Dickinson.

BL.

Outdated terms leftover from the 80's and early 90's.  You don't see guys who only play up 5 anymore or very many prototypical late timing, wild max rev guys anymore.  Bowling has become the game of versatility for those who are successful at the highest level.

I  would also lump in a large number of PWBA bowlers.  Stephanie Johnson, along with Liz Johnson.  Most are lower rev rates.  I agree with a previous poster, that the terms are outdated. I have seen Norm and Walter Ray swing the ball like a cranker.