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ntablet1515

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Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« on: January 06, 2017, 10:09:09 PM »
Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers (male or female)
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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2017, 11:23:45 AM »
I wonder if FL low axis rotation and low axis tilt has to do with revrate??? I don't know, but some1 told me I have more revs than another bowler. who's like a real tweener, power stroker than I am. The "coach", not mine, said I have more rev rate due to my roll?? At the time I had 7* tilt and 40-45* rotation - hated it. But, wouldn't someone in the opposite spectrum look to have more revrate??? I don't understand.... anyway, Revs or no revs, the guy won a green jacket.
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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2017, 11:44:02 AM »
Quote from: avabob on January 11, 2017, 11:03:23 AM
Being a stroker is not defined by rev rate.  Rather it is about having a free arm swing without an exaggerated high back swing and no late timing or extreme acceleration at the bottom.  In my experience you can generate close to 300 rpm while being a pure stroker, although I don't think anyone is really totally pure anymore.  Best example I can remember of a pure stroker was Ozio.  Going further back into the early 70's there were quite a few.  Stefanich might be another good example.   A lot of guys in the 90's up until about 10 years ago would meet the definition of power strokers that was coined in the 80's.  Guys like Voss and Pederson meet that criteria.  Larsen is probably in that category today.

Walter Ray is not close to being a stroker even though he has a rev rate associated with strokers. 

No one ever said a stroker is ONLY defined by rev rate, but, as I perceive them, it is one factor, IN MY OPINION. I don't ask you to agree with me.

I think that putting bowlers in these niches limits one's perception of their abilities.

I think the categories are only useful to non-PBA touring bowlers, as an example of the type of bowler they are. To allow them to help to understand their game, as compared to the professionals they see on TV.
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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2017, 01:06:38 PM »
Typically the terms stroker, tweener and cranker are being used to sell bowling balls.  It doesn't make sense to label someone a stroker simply because he has a smooth delivery.  What matters is how his ball gets down the lane.

If a bowler has a smooth delivery (stroker) and has 200 rpms and say 14 mph, should he watch Lavoie and make ball decisions based on what he uses?  Of course not.  He should look for someone with the same characteristics, even if he has a delivery that looks like E.J. Tackett.
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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2017, 05:08:45 PM »
If I had a delivery that looked like EJ Tackett's but only generated 200 rpms and 14 mph in speed, I would cry.
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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2017, 07:46:50 AM »
off the top of my head ....

Walter Ray Williams Jr.
Micheal Haugen
Norm Duke (when he plays it that way)

I'm sure there is more.
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bcw1969

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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2017, 08:30:42 AM »
Although he hasn't bowled on tour since the earl 90's, Don Genalo would be the definition of a  stroker, and he played mainly a straight ball with much end over end rotation as seen in this clip.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF5LIpA-N-s

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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2017, 12:45:21 PM »
Quote from: bcw1969 on January 12, 2017, 08:30:42 AM
Although he hasn't bowled on tour since the earl 90's, Don Genalo would be the definition of a  stroker, and he played mainly a straight ball with much end over end rotation as seen in this clip.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF5LIpA-N-s

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That reminds me. I'd even throw John Handegard in as a stroker. He was almost as smooth as Dickinson.

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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2017, 08:07:28 PM »
Has anyone thought to mention the great Earl Anthony as "the" classic stroker?
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spmcgivern

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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2017, 07:49:29 AM »
You could probably name everyone before Roth as strokers, especially when you compare their forms with current ones.

I guess I took this conversation as pertaining to current PBA bowlers.
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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2017, 12:45:23 PM »
Quote from: spmcgivern on January 13, 2017, 07:49:29 AM
You could probably name everyone before Roth as strokers, especially when you compare their forms with current ones.

I guess I took this conversation as pertaining to current PBA bowlers.

Jack Jurek?

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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2017, 06:13:57 PM »
Quote from: bradl on January 13, 2017, 12:45:23 PM
Quote from: spmcgivern on January 13, 2017, 07:49:29 AM
You could probably name everyone before Roth as strokers, especially when you compare their forms with current ones.

I guess I took this conversation as pertaining to current PBA bowlers.

Jack Jurek?

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LOL..... No
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tommyboy74

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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2017, 06:29:40 PM »
Although WRWJ basically could have been considered a cranker for a short time way back in early 1980's.  Check out the difference in his style back then compared to now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avyPQ4oUZaE&t=136s
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