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Equipment Boards => Hammer => Topic started by: ginro on January 25, 2008, 07:53:28 AM
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i want something that works on heavy 42' oil....
i was thinking on the black widow bite drilled with the pin under bridge or the complete nv a lil dull with pin over bridge ..
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neither go with the cell.
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I don't believe the Complete has even been released yet, so comparing the two is impossible until that time. As far as the Hammer line, the Anger is a great benchmark ball to build an arsenal around.
Andrew
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FUFU
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The BuzzBOMB is unmatched in oil. It is stronger than both of these balls by far with way more backend. Just read the reviews or get one and see for yourself. =:^D
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stay away form ebonite it you want something to really work well on oil
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stay away from me, cause I don't know what I'm talking about
Fixed.
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FUFU
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stay away from brunswick, lane 1, rotogrip, storm, if you want something that works at all
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stay away form ebonite it you want something to really work well on oil
Which leaves only 900 Global, Legends/Lanemasters, Track, MoRich, Columbia, Visionary, Hammer, and AMF.
My .02? Try a 900G Break. It'll hook just as much as anything else you are considering, is very versatile, and has proven coverstock durability (something that cannot be said for some other products).
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agroves....since you say that about me..I say this about you...I hope you die...have a nice day...I truly mean it...and welcome to the hammer forums on their website..seen ya were over there
Edited on 1/27/2008 11:26 PM
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Yawn.....you'll get no credibility on this or any site acting like you are 8 years old. Enjoy the ignore list.
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Edited on 1/28/2008 0:31 AM
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BITE
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"Nothing Hits Like A Hammer"
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There's many Hammer balls that will work on heavier/longer oil.
NO MERCY
NO MERCY BEAT'N
ANGER
VIBE (1000 grit works good for me)
DOOM (1000 grit works good for me)
It all depends on the your game, part of the lane your playing, cover grit of the ball ect... . There's so many factors involved. The balls listed above can work just fine on the lane pattern your describing. If your bowling on a walled up house pattern with dry board outside then anything can work if your bouncing the ball off the outside dry. If your bowling on lane patterns that have oil outside then it's all about playing the correct line on the back end. Baically whatever ball you choose finding the correct surface to put the ball at is key!
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In the Hammer line, I would say Yes, the Bite with a Pin Under layout, or an Anger. Other options would be the RotoGrip CELL and Storm Special Agent.
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Personally I have heard no so good things about the Complete NV
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the ball has been out 2 days.. Please report where you heard these bad things...
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Personally I have heard no so good things about the Complete NV
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My first child.. Hannah Allison Kiser born 4/30/2007... My little angel..
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from the people who have run the seminars for the CNV. I don't want to mention any names but, they were more impressed with the BWB. One thing they said was too much overlap with the current Ebo line-up
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I would have to say for heavier the Cell is the ball to get.
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sorry, I find it hard to believe Ebonite people would be saying anything like that... I am sure Ron Hickland or Jeff Ussery would not be saying that and they are the 2 running most of the seminars for the Complete..
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from the people who have run the seminars for the CNV. I don't want to mention any names but, they were more impressed with the BWB. One thing they said was too much overlap with the current Ebo line-up
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My first child.. Hannah Allison Kiser born 4/30/2007... My little angel..
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Neither of them said that, I don't know either of them. Let me clarify they were helping with the seminars. I asked them a specific question about what balls would they recommend. I specifically asked about the CNV. They said they would go with one of the other Ebo- Hammer balls. They weren't impressed with the overall reaction of the CNV compared to the rest of the NV lineup. I have no reason to say otherwise. I love Ebonite equipment, I think they were being very honest with me.
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Jeff and Ronald both work for Ebonite and one of them where at most if not all of the CNV seminars I was told..` I am not sure why people putting on a seminar for a specific ball would tell you to buy something else.. That makes zero sense to me but thats just my opinion..
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My first child.. Hannah Allison Kiser born 4/30/2007... My little angel..
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Jeff and Ronald both work for Ebonite and one of them where at most if not all of the CNV seminars I was told..` I am not sure why people putting on a seminar for a specific ball would tell you to buy something else.. That makes zero sense to me but thats just my opinion..
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My first child.. Hannah Allison Kiser born 4/30/2007... My little angel..
I wasn't at the seminar I was told the day after the seminar. I have only seen one person throw the CNV and he stood in the same place as the NVS. Similar reaction but could have been the drilling as well. The topic of the thread was between 3 different balls, I was replying with the little I saw and from basically what I heard. I bought the BWB instead of waiting.
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boomtown24, I have no reason not to believe you but I was under the impression you actually where at the seminar.. Thanks for clarifying that..
My pro shop guy attended the CNV seminar and saw the ball thrown by multiple people and he said its a monstor... I have no reason to not believe him as he is on the Storm staff, but if a ball is good, he doesn't care what brand it is and if its bad he will also be honest about that..
I have the BWB and its a very good ball. I also had the CNV drilled up MOnday after league and will throw it this weekend and get my own opnion of it, but until people that own the ball start making bad comments about it, I refuse to believe its bad..
I will say the Cell I just drilled up hooks about 5 boards more than the BWB.. Does that make it better IMO, NO.. Its just the Cell is a ball that will handle more oil than the BWB with both balls being OOB..
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Jeff and Ronald both work for Ebonite and one of them where at most if not all of the CNV seminars I was told..` I am not sure why people putting on a seminar for a specific ball would tell you to buy something else.. That makes zero sense to me but thats just my opinion..
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My first child.. Hannah Allison Kiser born 4/30/2007... My little angel..
I wasn't at the seminar I was told the day after the seminar. I have only seen one person throw the CNV and he stood in the same place as the NVS. Similar reaction but could have been the drilling as well. The topic of the thread was between 3 different balls, I was replying with the little I saw and from basically what I heard. I bought the BWB instead of waiting.
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My first child.. Hannah Allison Kiser born 4/30/2007... My little angel..
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WOW the Cell must be a monster!!! Comparable to the resurgence? I am under the impression the CNV is for med conditions.
Depending on who throws the ball anything could look good. I was told that overlap could be a factor with the CNV. Good luck with it, like you said reserve judgement until you actually throw it. I was reporting from what others initially saw and from what they felt in their hands.
What shape do you get out of your CELL?