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charlest

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Cut Throat particles sensitive to sandpaper?
« on: May 23, 2008, 02:30:55 PM »
Anyone have any idea if the Cut Throat's particles are sensitive to sandpaper or Abralon?
Do they need to be "processed" by Scotch Brite nylon pads.

I think I might like to restore my Razor Blade, which came 1000 grit matte. I don't want to sand the particles smooth with the resin base.

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Re: Cut Throat particles sensitive to sandpaper?
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2008, 10:49:44 PM »
charlest, I have had better luck with the abralon pads rather than scotch brite with the CT covers.  The abralon pads leave the cover much "tackier" and smoother to the touch.  The ball almost looks and feels filmy (if that makes sense) when I have used scotch brite on a CT cover.  This seems to be the only cover I have an issue with scotch brite on.  I have used the burgandy, green, and grey pads on the CT cover, all with minimal success.  But, I have had no problem with any of the abralon pads (360, 500, 1000, 2000, or 4000).  Good luck!
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charlest

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Re: Cut Throat particles sensitive to sandpaper?
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2008, 10:54:17 PM »
I've tried several surface changes on the RB with minimal success I mean bowling with it, not with the surface changes. (Then I tried to sell it and no one wanted it.) Maybe I can try it again and compare it to the BV some time this summer.

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Re: Cut Throat particles sensitive to sandpaper?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2008, 11:56:24 PM »
Have used Abralon some with factory finish polish or High gloss with good results, Had the Hawg and all of the deals cut throat is a great cover that for me like to be at least 2k with some shine to work best.
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Re: Cut Throat particles sensitive to sandpaper?
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2008, 12:22:03 AM »
ebonite uses glass/silica particles so it's going to be a tough one, I would try using a scotchbrite pad then maybe hit it up with some Resurrection if it came with a sheen finish.
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Re: Cut Throat particles sensitive to sandpaper?
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2008, 12:50:37 AM »
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ebonite uses glass/silica particles so it's going to be a tough one, I would try using a scotchbrite pad then maybe hit it up with some Resurrection if it came with a sheen finish.
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Re: Cut Throat particles sensitive to sandpaper?
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2008, 02:41:58 AM »
Sandpaper is too abrasive so that it's gonna smoothen the edge of the "pores" on the entire surface of a ball created by the particles. My approach would be, burgandy pad, green pad, a good USED 500 abralon, then finish with a used gray pad, or a brand new gray pad, then light hit with the Ebonite Matte Finish, which leaves a sheen finish.
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Re: Cut Throat particles sensitive to sandpaper?
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2008, 04:35:38 PM »
Its not like the particles are only on the top surface of the ball. Sanding with either is not going to eliminate them. And bowling with the ball generates much more friction than sanding, so you not going to "smooth" out particles that are "rough" and destroy the traction properties.

Just hot water bath and a normal resurface and it will be fine
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Re: Cut Throat particles sensitive to sandpaper?
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2008, 04:46:30 PM »
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Its not like the particles are only on the top surface of the ball. Sanding with either is not going to eliminate them. And bowling with the ball generates much more friction than sanding, so you not going to "smooth" out particles that are "rough" and destroy the traction properties.

Just hot water bath and a normal resurface and it will be fine
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Depending on how soft the particles are, yes, whatever is sticking up above the level of the resin base in which they are embedded, they can be smoothed so they are only as rough as the grit level of the resin base which had bene sanded. This was proven with Columbia's original particles which were softer than the abrasive on wet/dry sandpaper and on/in Abralon pads: silicon carbide.

when you sanded Chaos and related balls, you virtually made the ball into a resin ball. You needed to use Scotch Brite nylon pads which did not affect the  particles. So I was concerned how hard the particles were in the Cut-Throat coverstock.
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Re: Cut Throat particles sensitive to sandpaper?
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2008, 04:53:34 PM »
I resurfaced a Hawg Wild, took out a long cut half way around the ball, used Abralon Pads and it came out great. Never thought about using sandpaper, since Hammer and Ebonite use the Abralon Pads in the factory, they were good enough for me.

I've also resurfaced a couple Hawgs, same process and never saw any problems.

Now, that said, I tend to use the pads for just about every ball I've done. They are easier, safer with a CAB and I get more usage out of one pad than I did with one piece of sandpaper.
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Re: Cut Throat particles sensitive to sandpaper?
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2008, 06:12:49 PM »
Roger,

As long as I don't harm the particles, I couldn't care less which abrasive I use. I have almost all of them. I use what I need to use, first second, I use what is easiest and cheapest.
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