Author Topic: DOOM first impressions (Read 10902 times)

Noy · « **on:** April 07, 2006, 10:00:56 PM »

Hello again all, if you didn't already know, I just got/drilled a DOOM, my first ball ever. This is a GREAT BALL! Although I have just started working on a shot that didn't involve two finger cranking (thats what i did with a house ball), whenever I got the ball in or even near the pocket, I was bowling spared and strikes. My average with a house ball using a two finger cranker stroke is about a 130-150, my first game with the DOOM (could only bowl one game due to time issues) I bowled a 114 which isn't high but I am very pleased with.

Im trying to learn how to put spin on the ball using a fingertip grip while using my thumb and I was getting the hang of it. Because the ally was about the close after our first game, the manager let us bowl for the extra 15 mins that they were open for free. By then I had already bowled 3 strikes in the game, and I had a Turkey along with a couple other strikes in the 15min extra.

I know that these numbers dont sound all that great, but for a person who has been playing for almost a month, I think they're superb. This ball hits so hard and breaks very nicely when I am able to give it enough rotation. Kudos to Hammer for a great ball. I will continue to update you guys on my progress as a bowler as time progresses.

Any pointers on how I can give my ball more spin?
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Bowling Since March 2006

Arsenal:
Doom Raw Hammer
House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160

chitown · « **Reply #16 on:** April 14, 2006, 05:57:42 PM »

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any instructions on how to do this myself, or should i pay my pro shop guy and have him do it? I learned about pros dulling down the back flares of the ball to increase reaction on the back end while having clean skid through the front, thats really what i want to do.
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Bowling Since March 2006

Arsenal:
Doom Raw Hammer
House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160

You can do it yourself. Go to your local walmart and buy some blue and green scotchbrite pads. If you can get a hold of some grey pads that would be great to. Walmart does not carry the grey.

Blue- 1000 grit
grey- 800 grit
Green- 600 grit

Take the ball down to 600 grit. I would take it to the pro shop because he will have a ball spinner which makes it easier to do. Now a lot of people say not to dull a pearlized ball but don't listen to them. If your pro shop guy tells you that he does not recomend it then tell him to humor you and do it anyways. Bring the pads to the pro shop and tell him to use them. This way you know he is bringing the ball don to the grit you want.

Once this is done you wont believe the difference in the amount of oil the Doom can handle when dulled. This should do the trick for you.

Let us know how it worked.

duvallite · « **Reply #17 on:** April 18, 2006, 01:36:49 PM »

Chitown is right about successfully dulling a pearl-particle. I dulled my 1500 grit Storm Depth Charge with a green scotchbrite, and it made a BIG difference in the strength of the ball, way better for me than the OOB cover on our oily synthetic lanes, especially with carrydown. I've since changed it again using the grey scotchbrite, with just a hint of Track Magic Shine afterwards to give me a little more separation from my Phenom Unleashed at 600 grit (green scotchbrite). Good combo.

Noy · « **Reply #18 on:** April 18, 2006, 06:40:12 PM »

Thanks Chi for the info. I called my pro shop guy today to see what he can do and I'm takin it in today to get it dulled down to 500grit abralon. Now, if i use polish on it (ie Ebonite Factory Finish), will it raise the grit or simply add shine to it? I cant wait to try this ball at 500grit.
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Bowling Since March 2006

Arsenal:
Doom Raw Hammer
House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160

chitown · « **Reply #19 on:** April 18, 2006, 11:46:32 PM »

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Thanks Chi for the info. I called my pro shop guy today to see what he can do and I'm taking it in today to get it dulled down to 500grit abralon. Now, if i use polish on it (ie Ebonite Factory Finish), will it raise the grit or simply add shine to it? I cant wait to try this ball at 500grit.
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Bowling Since March 2006

Arsenal:
Doom Raw Hammer
House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160

Don't polish it after it's dulled. Otherwise your defeating the purpose of what your trying to do by dulling it. If the ball is too strong once dulled to 500 grit then you can decide if you want to bring it back to a polished state. Or you could dull it up to like 1000 grit and no polish. Just work with it until you get the desired reaction from the cover change.

I have 3 Dooms. Well two of them are drilled the same. There drilled for length and back end. My other Doom is drilled for overall strength. Well the 2 I have drilled for length one fo them is box and the other is dulled to 1000 grit. What a 2 ball combo. I can start with the dull and when the lanes break down I can go to the box condition one.

Another thing I have found to work real well. I have started many games in league using the box condition Doom. Well when the lanes start to transition and the pocket seems hard to locate I quickly grab my 1000 grit dull Doom. I up the ball speed a little and it really smoothes the break point but hits like a MISSLE. Then by the third game the lanes have transitioned and I go back to the Box Doom and wheel it from Deep.

This is one fantastic ball. If you ever get a chance to own two of them do it. I also recommend drilling them the same and dulling one. Makes a perfect 2 ball combo.

Noy · « **Reply #20 on:** April 19, 2006, 12:43:59 AM »

So I bowled a full 3 games today after not playing for a week, but, before hand I dulled my ball down to 500 abralon. I must say, I am very pleased with the results. I didnt bowl to great today (87,169,98...inconsistent i kno), but i am very happy with the reaction. One thing I found out though is that I got the ball drilled too weak. When I initially bought the ball, I asked for a basic layout not knowing that the ball was gonig to be this week in hooking. So eventually when I start getting better, im gonna have to get this ball redrilled. Maybe 4x4, but we'll see.

Any tips on how to impart revs? I think im more of a low-med rever.
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Bowling Since March 2006

Arsenal:
Doom Raw Hammer
House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160

splendorlex · « **Reply #21 on:** April 19, 2006, 08:10:28 AM »

A label leverage drilling is not a problem. I have most of my equipment drilled this way, and it is not really a "weak" drilling, of course a lot of that depends on your PAP and such. Take that money you would have used to redrill the ball and get some lessons. They will help you more than any change in equipment will.

Edited on 4/19/2006 9:27 AM

chitown · « **Reply #22 on:** April 19, 2006, 09:18:17 AM »

Spledorex is totally correct. Your label drilling is not a weak drilling. It may not be the strongest but it should work very good for you with this ball. Remeber cover is about 75 percent of a balls reaction.

I would concentrate on learning how to develop an "A-GAME". An "A-GAME" is a bowlers most comfortable release. You need to learn to develop as a bowler.

Do an internet search for "Ron Cliftons bowling tips" There is some great info on there that will help your bowling. He also has an article on there about increasing revs.

Noy · « **Reply #23 on:** April 19, 2006, 12:59:06 PM »

Hey chitown, I already pmed you but just wanted to say thanks again, as well as everyone else that has contributed to my learning process. I dont expect to be pro-hooking right off the bat and it was my mistake to make it seem like that was what I wanted. I know things like this take a while to learn and while I am still pretty young (21yrs old), I have a whole lifetime ahead of me to get better. Lately I've been working on accuracy, revs, and wrist strength. As much as i hate to admit it, I think my wrist is more suited for a 12lb ball right now but I'm toughing it out and using a 14lb ball while also lifting weights and doing wrist strengthening exercises. Hopefully in about a couple of weeks ill gain the strength to have more control of my ball.

Will keep you guys updated!
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Bowling Since March 2006

Arsenal:
Doom Raw Hammer
House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160

splendorlex · « **Reply #24 on:** April 19, 2006, 01:00:57 PM »

Some people might not suggest this, but you also might try a wrist brace if you have problems with wrist strength. I can't bowl without my Robby's Revs II. A lot of people on this board have disdain for such things, though.

You can always get one to use while you work on strengthening your wrist, and ditch it later.

Noy · « **Reply #25 on:** April 19, 2006, 04:13:50 PM »

Hehe, I do use a wrist brace, but its a basic robby's brace, nothin to help rev. Kinda regret that I got it on account that I found more and better ones after the guy restocked his inventory.
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Bowling Since March 2006

Arsenal:
Doom Raw Hammer
House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160

splendorlex · « **Reply #26 on:** April 19, 2006, 05:53:14 PM »

Is it just one of those leather type robby's? Or is it a metal one? I love the revs II, and they aren't that expensive online. Oh, and one more thing, don't get too hung up on revs.

I'm sure you've heard the phrase before, but in many, MANY cases, straighter is greater! You just want to be able to hit your spot consistently and find a comfortable line to the pocket, don't get hung up on trying to make your ball move in a hockey stick type way.

Noy · « **Reply #27 on:** April 20, 2006, 12:04:39 PM »

its the standard leather with metal reinforcement.

About the "straighter is greater" line. My friend who is learning along with me bowls straight as an arrow. Should he eventually learn to at least curve into the pocket. I've seen numerous times where he's left 4, 5, and 7's and I tell him, "if your ball hooked a lil, it would have drove through that would have been a strike.."
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Bowling Since March 2006

Arsenal:
Doom Raw Hammer
House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160

splendorlex · « **Reply #28 on:** April 20, 2006, 12:08:38 PM »

First, try a better wrist brace. IMHO, those leather ones don't do a whole lot if you have a weak wrist. They work fine for more experienced players with developed games.

Second, when I say straighter is greater, I don't mean straight as an arrow. You still want at least some turn and drive, unless you go full roller, which is hard to do I understand. I just mean that you don't need to hook off the deck to be successful at bowling, and that in many cases, it's better if you don't. Take a look at some of the best PBA players of all time, and see how many of them didn't have a ton of movement.

Noy · « **Reply #29 on:** April 20, 2006, 12:36:03 PM »

will take your advice splendor on a new wristbrace. I think my friends dad uses the robby rev II. The ball looks beautiful coming off his hands. (But of course, I know I shouldnt let the brace do all the work)
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Bowling Since March 2006

Arsenal:
Doom Raw Hammer
House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160

Noy · « **Reply #30 on:** April 21, 2006, 03:09:34 AM »

Hey all, got back from another practice session. I think what i need to do is just go out by myself once and work on my game. I scored a 110 and 134, couldnt play a whole 3 games due to time. The thing is is that I'm always going out with at least 5-8 friends which messes up the whole flow of things. At least I'm gettin a lil more consistent. I swear my score would be higher if I could convert those pesky spares (especially those damn 7 and 10 singles). I'm gettin better and more consistent, just need a lil bit of practice time so i can try things without feeling the need to be competitive with my friends.

Keepin ya updated!
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Bowling Since March 2006

Arsenal:
Doom Raw Hammer
House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160

See my bowling scores online here:
http://www.allbowling.com/journal/public.php?uid=2038&leagueid=808

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