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Noy

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DOOM first impressions
« on: April 07, 2006, 10:00:56 PM »
Hello again all, if you didn't already know, I just got/drilled a DOOM, my first ball ever.  This is a GREAT BALL!  Although I have just started working on a shot that didn't involve two finger cranking (thats what i did with a house ball), whenever I got the ball in or even near the pocket, I was bowling spared and strikes.  My average with a house ball using a two finger cranker stroke is about a 130-150, my first game with the DOOM (could only bowl one game due to time issues) I bowled a 114 which isn't high but I am very pleased with.

Im trying to learn how to put spin on the ball using a fingertip grip while using my thumb and I was getting the hang of it.  Because the ally was about the close after our first game, the manager let us bowl for the extra 15 mins that they were open for free.  By then I had already bowled 3 strikes in the game, and I had a Turkey along with a couple other strikes in the 15min extra.

I know that these numbers dont sound all that great, but for a person who has been playing for almost a month, I think they're superb.  This ball hits so hard and breaks very nicely when I am able to give it enough rotation.  Kudos to Hammer for a great ball.  I will continue to update you guys on my progress as a bowler as time progresses.  

Any pointers on how I can give my ball more spin?
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Average: 130-160

 

chitown

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Re: DOOM first impressions
« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2006, 10:37:12 AM »
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Hey all, got back from another practice session.  I think what i need to do is just go out by myself once and work on my game.  I scored a 110 and 134, couldnt play a whole 3 games due to time.  The thing is is that I'm always going out with at least 5-8 friends which messes up the whole flow of things.  At least I'm gettin a lil more consistent.  I swear my score would be higher if I could convert those pesky spares (especially those damn 7 and 10 singles).  I'm gettin better and more consistent, just need a lil bit of practice time so i can try things without feeling the need to be competitive with my friends.

Keepin ya updated!
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Bowling Since March 2006

Arsenal:
Doom Raw Hammer
House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160

See my bowling scores online here:
http://www.allbowling.com/journal/public.php?uid=2038&leagueid=808


That's a great idea.  You should practice by yourself.  This way your focused on your game.  

Spares are the most important part of this game.  If you have a solid spare game the strikes will come.  Opens frames kill a game.  Take the time to learn a straight spare system.  I'm talking about throwing the ball straight as an arrow at all spares.  

Good luck and keep us posted.

Noy

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Re: DOOM first impressions
« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2006, 11:16:14 AM »
Yea, I was throwing the ball straight, well kinda..Like if I left a 7 pin (im a lefty) then I would try to bowl from right to left (corner to corner)using rotation.  I choose to do this so that I can keep a consistent release.  I didnt leave a lot of 10 pins and when i did I converted all of them, and I think i went like 30% on my 7 pin conversions.  Just tryin to develop a consistent release w/ rotation.  Again, right now score really doesnt matter to me except for when i play with buddies and I think thats whats holding me back...the need to score rather than the need to improve when im out with friends.  

I am going to the lanes by myself in a couple of hours...we'll see what happens

Stay tuned...
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House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160

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Noy

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Re: DOOM first impressions
« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2006, 04:30:32 PM »
I bowled today during my lunch hour, got a 116, 132, 148..not bad, but I think I figured out what I can do.  I noticed that my thumb gets stuck in the ball a lot.  Not really stuck, but sticks, i dunno..it stays in there a split second more than it should and I'm noticing it.  I think I'm going to install a thumb slug for easier evac of my thumb.  Also, I think I could use a lil more forward pitch on my thumb to help me control the ball more.  I dont have large hands and I need all the palm i can get to control my ball.  Waht do u guys think?
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Doom Raw Hammer
House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160

See my bowling scores online here:
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chitown

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Re: DOOM first impressions
« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2006, 09:04:38 PM »
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I bowled today during my lunch hour, got a 116, 132, 148..not bad, but I think I figured out what I can do.  I noticed that my thumb gets stuck in the ball a lot.  Not really stuck, but sticks, i dunno..it stays in there a split second more than it should and I'm noticing it.  I think I'm going to install a thumb slug for easier evac of my thumb.  Also, I think I could use a lil more forward pitch on my thumb to help me control the ball more.  I dont have large hands and I need all the palm i can get to control my ball.  Waht do u guys think?
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Bowling Since March 2006

Arsenal:
Doom Raw Hammer
House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160

See my bowling scores online here:
http://www.allbowling.com/journal/public.php?uid=2038&leagueid=808


Well I would be careful with forward thumb pitch.  If your thumb is sticking you may just need to get the thumb hole worked out to fit better.  Plus you don't want to squeeze a lot with your thumb if you can help it.  I would just talk with your pro shop guy about your thumb situation.

Just keep practicing and it will pay off.

Noy

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Re: DOOM first impressions
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2006, 03:56:16 AM »
Wow, great day of bowling today, well for me at least.  135, 169, 127...good day in my opinion.  Watching my average creep up into the 140-150 range.

While I was bowling, I noticed that i wasnt "answering the phone" when I bowled.  My hand never really followed through the shot.  So every time i bowled, i kept a mental note in my head to follow through and boy did that help my game.  A lot more revs and a lot more accuracy.  Spares were coming a lot more as I started to understand how to adjust myself according to where I wanted to place the ball.  Went like 80% on my 7 pin conversions (lefty).  I would still like to invest in a Pro Release Extended as my wrist is a little weak and I dont wanna drop below 14lbs.

Birthday comin up, lookin to get an Action/UTPP combo for my bday and hopefully a 10lb White Dot for a spare ball.  Yea yea, Im an equipment junky, who isnt on these forums?

Will keep u guys updated!
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Arsenal:
Doom Raw Hammer
House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160

See my bowling scores online here:
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splendorlex

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Re: DOOM first impressions
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2006, 08:30:41 AM »
Ok, first of all, don't go all the way down to 10 with your spare ball.  You'll throw it like a rocket and it won't help your game.  You can drop to 14 for the spare ball, but that's as low as I'd go.

Also, I highly recommend AGAINST getting anything other than a spare ball.  I wasted a LOT of time in my early bowling days getting new equipment.  Until you are consistent with what you have, new equipment will make very little difference.  Your best bet right now is to ONLY use that Doom, at least until you're well over a 150 average.  I know it's nice to get new equipment, but believe me when I say it will only delay your development as a bowler at this time.  If you want to get a new ball and only use that one, that's fine, but don't try to build an arsenal at this point, it can only confuse the situation.

Noy

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Re: DOOM first impressions
« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2006, 09:15:47 AM »
Hmm, will take your words into consideration splendor.  Im already bowling with a 14lb ball which is why I thought 10 would be a good drop for more control over a spare ball.  If im bowling a 14, whats the lowest i should go?
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splendorlex

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Re: DOOM first impressions
« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2006, 10:29:14 AM »
If you're already bowling with 14, I'd go to 13 at the most.  My preference is to stay at the same weight with everything.  You might think you'll get more control by dropping a few pounds, but in fact it might make your swing more inconsistent overall.

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Re: DOOM first impressions
« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2006, 02:24:55 PM »
That i will agree with. I started where you are now Noy jus last yr. Getting a lot of equipment isn't really the key until u get consistent and you know what your Doom will do. Also 13 is cool for spares. If u can grab a coach. I found mine on bowl.com from the usbc site. Free lessons etc. Which is cool. The man helped me get my timin correct, my average is up by 27 something odd pins. Keep it up though.
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Noy

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Re: DOOM first impressions
« Reply #40 on: May 04, 2006, 12:34:53 AM »
So I got a slug installed into my doom today to fix the sticky thumb problem..shot 106, 169, 179 and again, damn happy.  If you click on the link in my signature, you can see that my average is slowly going up now that I'm getting into the groove of things.  My spare shooting is improving every time i go out, I'm remembering more to follow through, etc.  Hopefully soon I get to where a full follow through is second nature and I dont have to tell myself every 2-3 frames to do it.
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Doom Raw Hammer
House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160

See my bowling scores online here:
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Noy

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Re: DOOM first impressions
« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2006, 01:51:20 AM »
So i bowled a 167-136-132 series today.  Great thing is that my spare game is really improving and its thanks to the controlable backend that this ball has to offer.  The 7 pins that used to stay standing on the strike attempt are not standing anymore, but rather im leaving the 5 pin a lot for some reason.  In my 136 game, i only had 2 open frames which is the best ive done and the other games i only left opens when i had splits.  My running average has increased to 141, so im gettin better =)

While I am still learning to find my lines to the strike zone, I find this ball great for picking up spares with its label leverage drilling.  I was going to have this redrilled to 4x4 but I think I will end up keeping it label due to its great control and predictability.  Great for picking up multipin spares.

We'll see how it compliments my Agent next monday =) (i know im gonna get a lot of lip for that =)
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Arsenal:
Doom Raw Hammer
House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160

See my bowling scores online here:
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ImaRedbird

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Re: DOOM first impressions
« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2006, 05:57:44 AM »
Noy instead of grabbing another strike ball i would say for u to invest in a spare ball. Don't matter which one, a white dot, viz-a-ball,maxim, or zone. But to become accurate you should work with a nice piece of plastic.
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splendorlex

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Re: DOOM first impressions
« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2006, 07:59:23 AM »
If you're leaving a lot of five pins, you aren't getting very much drive through the pocket.  A five pin is a sign of a weak or deflecting ball.  Your release is probably very inconsistent right now, which will be a huge factor.  Forget the Agent, get some lessons!  (Why doesn't anyone ever listen to good advice??)  

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Re: DOOM first impressions
« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2006, 08:16:35 AM »
Testosterone ?
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splendorlex

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Re: DOOM first impressions
« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2006, 08:25:41 AM »
Azguy, I think that's a great answer!