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Nicholskid04 · « **on:** October 31, 2008, 07:16:57 PM »

I recently posted that i hate my BWP, well comes to find out it was full of oil, i've had it in the oven cleanin it ever 5min at under 200degrees, and its been leaking oil constantly for over an hour, with no cracks are nothing, do you guysy think that this is all was wrong with the ball not hooking

Moon57 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 01, 2008, 04:32:32 AM »

Very well could be all that was wrong with it. Be real careful using an oven to heat the ball up. It's been reported that some people have cracked the ball doing that.
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Fatboy8 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 01, 2008, 05:18:59 AM »

A really hot bucket of water can do wonders sometimes, and is pretty easy and foolproof. I've used the oven myself though, and had success too.

It should make a big difference in reaction, getting the ball back to newer condition with all that oil out of it though.
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BubbaRay · « **Reply #3 on:** November 01, 2008, 06:37:38 AM »

I wouldn't ssuggest to bake that ball in the oven. I agree with Fatboy. Let the ball soak in a 5 gal. pail of hot water a few times. Baking a ball to get the oil out is asking for trouble in a home oven. These covers are sensitive to heat and cold. Balls will crack in your trunk or SUV in the summer and temps only gat as high as 140 degress. Hot water bathing and cleaning with a good ball cleaner is the best home cleaning regieme. Other than that take it to your pro shop and have them clean it .

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Nicanor · « **Reply #4 on:** November 01, 2008, 10:13:33 AM »

I ws told that baking a ball, like leaving the ball in the hot sun, will not only bleed out the oil, but the plastizers (sp?) as well if heated too long. It gives you the impression that oil is still being extracted, but eventually its the plastizers.

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Bowlin for Beer · « **Reply #5 on:** November 01, 2008, 01:54:06 PM »

I had a Bite that quit hooking, and tried the rejuvinator at the pro shop (140 deg) but no oil came out. I noticed during the summer when I'd leave my bag in my car, that the Bite would be the only ball not oozing oil while my others did.

Turns out that for this coverstock it needs to be heated up to a higher temperature than others. I baked mine in the oven at 170 deg and the oil just started to come out - but not much. I then soaked it in a bucket of hot water (so hot I could barely stick my hand in). And more oil came out. Baked it for a good 30 minutes and soaked it for about 45 min - turning it periodically to wipe the oil off the surface.

So, it just needed a higher temperature to heat up the coverstock than the other balls. The oil was the problem by the way. The ball is back hooking just fine.

chitown · « **Reply #6 on:** November 01, 2008, 04:53:37 PM »

From what i've heard it not good to heat a coverstock of a bowling ball over 165 degrees.

I only use hot water baths as it wont damage the coverstock.

Juggernaut · « **Reply #7 on:** November 01, 2008, 05:11:56 PM »

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From what i've heard it not good to heat a coverstock of a bowling ball over 165 degrees.

I only use hot water baths as it wont damage the coverstock.

I understand your concern, but, if the ball is dead, isn't it already a total loss? Where is the harm then, in turning up the heat and seeing what happens? At this point, its not like your losing anything or causing more damage, its already useless, right?

P.S. I had a friend baking a ball in the oven. While he was waiting, he fell asleep and woke up to the smoke alarm, with the oven ablaze. Seems quite a bit of oil had run out and caught on fire while he slept.

He had been asleep for 30 minutes and the oven was set on 250. Needless to say, the ball was a TOTAl loss, the oven/stove had to be cleaned, and he said he almost NEVER got that smell out of the house. RIP Carbide BOMB.
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rockerbowler18 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 01, 2008, 05:31:40 PM »

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P.S. I had a friend baking a ball in the oven. While he was waiting, he fell asleep and woke up to the smoke alarm, with the oven ablaze. Seems quite a bit of oil had run out and caught on fire while he slept.

He had been asleep for 30 minutes and the oven was set on 250. Needless to say, the ball was a TOTAl loss, the oven/stove had to be cleaned, and he said he almost NEVER got that smell out of the house. RIP Carbide BOMB.
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Nicholskid04 · « **Reply #9 on:** November 01, 2008, 06:46:12 PM »

well thanks for all the replies, the hot water method i hate it, it crakced my Black Cherry bomb, and my Messenger TI, apparently my water gets to hot, so i turned to the oven, i will try this ball out tomorrow (the bwp that is) and let you all know how it went, i set it at 200Degrees chekcinig every few minutes and cleanin with alchohol, until very lil oil leaked out. Also when i put my Messenger Ti, Black cherry bomb, and storm shock trauma and fear factor in the oven no oil at all came out, nothing came out actually. Any one have any idea why? there is no way that the ball hasnt soaked up any oil the BCB was for heavy oil for me, hmmmm that confused me

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chitown · « **Reply #10 on:** November 01, 2008, 08:02:59 PM »

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From what i've heard it not good to heat a coverstock of a bowling ball over 165 degrees.

I only use hot water baths as it wont damage the coverstock.

I understand your concern, but, if the ball is dead, isn't it already a total loss? Where is the harm then, in turning up the heat and seeing what happens? At this point, its not like your losing anything or causing more damage, its already useless, right?

P.S. I had a friend baking a ball in the oven. While he was waiting, he fell asleep and woke up to the smoke alarm, with the oven ablaze. Seems quite a bit of oil had run out and caught on fire while he slept.

He had been asleep for 30 minutes and the oven was set on 250. Needless to say, the ball was a TOTAl loss, the oven/stove had to be cleaned, and he said he almost NEVER got that smell out of the house. RIP Carbide BOMB.
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Your wrong in my opinion. The ball is not dead and only needs the oil xtracted from the coverstock. So if your going to extract the oil from the coverstock then why not do it the correct way so you don't ruine the ball?

I for one have never seen a ball totally die. I mean never! I've seen bowling balls lose a lot of reaction but was always able to get most of the reaction back with hot water baths.

chitown · « **Reply #11 on:** November 01, 2008, 08:06:11 PM »

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well thanks for all the replies, the hot water method i hate it, it crakced my Black Cherry bomb, and my Messenger TI, apparently my water gets to hot, so i turned to the oven, i will try this ball out tomorrow (the bwp that is) and let you all know how it went, i set it at 200Degrees chekcinig every few minutes and cleanin with alchohol, until very lil oil leaked out. Also when i put my Messenger Ti, Black cherry bomb, and storm shock trauma and fear factor in the oven no oil at all came out, nothing came out actually. Any one have any idea why? there is no way that the ball hasnt soaked up any oil the BCB was for heavy oil for me, hmmmm that confused me

Edited on 11/1/2008 7:08 PM

If your hot water at home is over 200 dergees then that's unreal! I've never seen or had a ball crack because of a hot water bath. To each his own I guess.

I do know the revivor is another good method of extracting oil. The revivor basically acts like an oven but the temp doesn't go above 165 degrees. At least that's what i've heard.

Nicholskid04 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 01, 2008, 08:24:19 PM »

yea my water is hot as hell i cant even touch it, its good for the dishwaster thougn and stains on clothes for the washer, but any idea why my other balls didnt leak oil

Juggernaut · « **Reply #13 on:** November 01, 2008, 08:50:23 PM »

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yea my water is hot as hell i cant even touch it, its good for the dishwaster thougn and stains on clothes for the washer, but any idea why my other balls didnt leak oil

I don't know either, but, I had an original Inferno that was the same way for me. It had lost a lot of its reaction and I had tried everything I could think of ( including hot water baths) and couldn't get anything to bleed out.

Then, someone told me to run to through a heavy wash cycle on the dishwasher, turning off the heat drying cycle, and using plenty of dishwasher detergent as it has a strong degreaser in it. I ran it through one time and VOILA, it is back. It had a strange, "fuzzyish" appearance when I took it out and wiped it down. Took it to the spinner for a cleaning and polish. Cleaning was no problem, but polishing was, didn't seem to want to polish back up, but after a while it finally did. Ball works as good now as I remember it ever working.
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charlest · « **Reply #14 on:** November 01, 2008, 09:51:11 PM »

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I ws told that baking a ball, like leaving the ball in the hot sun, will not only bleed out the oil, but the plastizers (sp?) as well if heated too long. It gives you the impression that oil is still being extracted, but eventually its the plastizers.
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From what I have heard/learned, if the temp goes above the "magic" 140/150 degree level, then the plasticizers come out. Otherwise, the heat allows the lane oil to rise to the surface,
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