Author Topic: Has My DOOM Died? (Read 5850 times)

SUKIE · « **on:** February 08, 2006, 11:06:09 PM »

60 to 70 Games. Cleaned after every 3 games or even more frequent than that in many cases. Any one else with the same problem. Ball looks great, no track in it ect.

KDawg77 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 09, 2006, 12:21:06 PM »

I like my Hammer equipment very much and never had a cover die on me.
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anotherwindup · « **Reply #17 on:** February 09, 2006, 02:35:25 PM »

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Hammer covers are not made by Ebonite.

Balls made out of Hopkinsville, KY, have been thrown by the last 2 POY's on the PBA tour, and possibly the last 3 if Tommy Jones wins it this year.

Where do you think Ebonite balls are made?

They are one and the same company!!!

By the way....Tommy jones could win with a Urethane ball from 1980.

Im not saying that these are bad balls. But other than my V2 I have seen many ebonite balls die.

Just a question, Does it matter what you throw when you bowl in Decatur??? I figured that anything would work there as long as it was round.

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Ahhh, I see you know me. I knew that user name had to come from the Midwest.

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Where do you think Ebonite balls are made?
They are one and the same company!!!

You obviously missed the point of the post. Sarcasm. The balls are produced in the same plant, which Ebonite owns, but to say that they are the same company is incorrect. Again......Hammer and Ebonite do not share cores or covers, just a manufacturing plant.

A Decatur reference....funny.....I also bowl in Champaign.

You know me. I might as well know you.....who are you?
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"Nothing HITS like a Hammer"

chitown · « **Reply #18 on:** February 09, 2006, 03:03:43 PM »

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This rather concerns me if its true. I have one of these but haven't really used it that much because I was not liking the reactions I have been seeing with the ball. The ball is giving me the same reaction I was getting from the Pearl Sling blade which is slides too much if there is oil or carry down and not making it to the pocket or hitting the dry and turning too soon and missing the pocket.

I need to give the ball more time I guess before I do anything drastic. Was considering dulling the ball then repolishing it a bit or possibly have a weight hole put in to tame it a bit. Its drilled about 4.5 x 3.5. Or I may just sell it and be done with it. Oh it does hit well when it hits I just have trouble with getting it there. I had this same problem like i said with the sling blade finally had to let it go. Most of the balls I use to best effect seem to be polished reactive balls.
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Your first paragraph says it all. Your not playing on the correct condition for this ball. First if this ball slides too much then there is too much oil for this ball. Next if your playing on a pattern that has a lot of carry down then once again your not playing on the right condition with this ball.

This ball is great for med fresh oil and light oiled lanes. Lanes that are heavily oiled are not for this ball. Also this is ball is not a good choice for carry down. Now if I come across carry down on a lighter oiled shot I just go around it if I can when using my Doom. If there is no way around the carry down then I put my Doom in the bag and use a stronger ball.

chitown · « **Reply #19 on:** February 09, 2006, 03:11:20 PM »

I have about 40 games on my Doom and it works just fine. In fact this is the best reactivce pearl ball I have ever owned. I will post again when I get about 60 games on it to say if the cover is holding up. I'm willing to bet it will be just fine.

I'm starting to notice that some bowlers are using this ball on conditions that it's not meant for. If this ball is sliding too much then why are you using it? That should be a direct indication that there is probably too much oil on the lanes for this ball.

I really feel there are a lot of bowleres using balls on the wrong conditions.

KDawg77 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 09, 2006, 03:11:58 PM »

Something I've posted a few times about Hammer and Ebonite factory polished equipment is that you should "break the cover" with a light sanding of nothing lower than 600 grit and then repolish with Factory Finish. Ebonite Rep John Gaines told me this. The application process at the factory caused the balls to react over/under. Performing the method above evens the reaction to a more consistent level.

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chitown · « **Reply #21 on:** February 09, 2006, 03:15:11 PM »

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I don't know what to think. Since Ebonite bought Hammer I have bought a lot of there "stuff" & never had a problem like this untill this ball. Hammer has contacted me & told me to resurface the ball. I will have this done & see what happens next.

May be you just got 1 bad ball out of thousands? I don't know what to say. In fact why don't you bring it back to the pro shop and have the driller look at it. I'm sure if there is a problem with the cover they will replace it.

Now I remeber you saying that the cover looks great but it doesn't react. I find that kind of strange. Are you absoulty sure that your bowling on the correct condition? What exactly is the ball doing?

chitown · « **Reply #22 on:** February 09, 2006, 03:56:40 PM »

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Hey Chitown, I have read your reviews of the ball and been quiet on this because I thought well I haven't given the ball a fair shake but I guess its this over/under situation I am running into. In my regular league, we play a 4 game set. The first and second game I use either my 3 D Violet or a Visionary Violet with the 3 D being a bit grabbier. If I'm using the 3 D by the third game usually like to switch because its turning in to fast. If I go in with the Doom the ball either will slide past the break point or come in too soon. What I have been using with success is the 3 D Violet and then third game come in with a 3 D Tour which goes just a bit longer. I would of thought the Doom could have handled this but there is a little carry down by this time and I just seem to be either not making the turn or too soon. So thats why I am frustrated with it. I will try sanding with a green pad and then repolish to see if it changes for the better. If that doesn't help then out it goes.
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I understand what your saying. I still feel your on the wrong conditions for this ball. Many peralized balls do not like carry down. If your on a conditions where it turns or skids then it's not the ball but the condition. Now some balls work great for those types of conditions and some balls don't.

For me I have had great results from the Doom on med and light conditions. If i'm on a condition that has a lot of carry down then I use a different ball. If your bowling on xtreme over under conditions then I would suggest using a different ball. Try the Doom on a different type of condition and see if it doesn'r work for you. If you still want it for the third game and the over and under is bad then just dull it too like 800 grit and use it like that.

anotherwindup · « **Reply #23 on:** February 09, 2006, 04:20:35 PM »

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You obviously missed the point of the post. Sarcasm. The balls are produced in the same plant, which Ebonite owns, but to say that they are the same company is incorrect. Again

Dude,

"Technically" they are owned by the same company Ebonite industries. Just like AMF, Track and Columbia 300 are part of Columbia industries.

I will say that the "ONE" has been a great ball from what I can see, and I have had Track stuff die too.

Actually I dont know you. You have your name in your signature. As far as the Decatur thing....NO dis-respect there, but it is one of the biggest CHINA towns around. So im not referring to your talent level. They wouldnt have put you on their staff if you were a TOE.

Its just been a CRAP day and I had a lil fun on here..

Hey, I have no problem with bad days. I have them too. I even have bad days on ballreviews.....just ask around. I have offended a few on here.

Decatur...actually wasn't a CHINA town until Pla-mor installed the new Lane Shield. Before that, the scores were very modest. After the installation, then the scores went through the roof. Sparetime and Schaeffer's are not as easy. Any way, unless you went to bowl.com and looked me up, how would you even know that I bowl in Decatur???

You obviously are from the midwest, possibly on Track staff, and bowl regionals. That is the only way that you would reference CHINA, TOE, and NMD. I also think you know me otherwise you wouldn't know about decatur. I am guessing you are from the Chicagoland area, possibly?

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'05-'06 Hammer Amateur Staff
"Nothing HITS like a Hammer"

anotherwindup · « **Reply #24 on:** February 14, 2006, 08:48:19 AM »

SUKIE- have you worked on the cover?
How is it working for you?

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'05-'06 Hammer Amateur Staff
"Nothing HITS like a Hammer"

SUKIE · « **Reply #25 on:** February 14, 2006, 12:14:40 PM »

I took my Doom & 2 Pure Hammers ( black ones ) to the pro shop yesterday afternoon. He took the cover off ever so slightly on the Doom. He was very surprised by my complaint. He thought the cover looked like the ball was nearly new. He asked permission to put the ball in the heater for a few minutes to see what would happen. WOW. What a mess!!! Then he did the 2 black Pure Hammer's. One he had to cook for another 2 hours before it quit bleeding. Makes me wonder what happens to peoples equiptment that never gets any care. These balls have never seen 3 straight games with out cleaning. Come to think of it when #2 son or I cleaned the Doom there was little if any thing on the towell. I will know tonite if this fixed the problem. Bad enough to bowl with pain & then to bowl bad on top of that. The pro shop guys seem to think that the big " E'S " stuff has a problem with covers soaking up lots of oil. More so than other brands. Any one else with any imput?

chitown · « **Reply #26 on:** February 15, 2006, 12:19:12 AM »

I have not had any problems with my Doom at all. I clean it with energizer cleaner and see all kinds of dirt and what not on the towle afterwards.

Now about this oil being absorbed by the covers. I had a high rev 3-d off set by Hammer when they were Faball. I used this ball an entire league season and only cleaned it once. This was before I knew much about taking care of bowling balls. Well I had that ball for a very long time. I probably had 1000 games on it. It still worked great. I don't know what is wrong with your Doom but I have many games on mine and it works great. I don't think I will have any problems like you had. You must have just got a dud.

SUKIE · « **Reply #27 on:** February 15, 2006, 02:38:31 PM »

After baking the oil out of the ball it seens to work a lot better last nite than it has for the past 6 weeks or so. I will give it another shot tonite. Seem to really help the Pure Hammer's a bunch.

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