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Equipment Boards => Hammer => Topic started by: Fromeartoear on November 18, 2013, 08:00:32 PM

Title: Have Roto grip want hammer
Post by: Fromeartoear on November 18, 2013, 08:00:32 PM
Hey I currently have two Roto Grips. The r the cell, and the mutant cell. I'm looking to get a hammer that's about 3 boards more aggressive. I use to have the black widow and I miss that ball but it's a retired ball ATM. So I need help lol. I'm looking to replace the mutant with a more aggressive ball with a late hook. And I want the same curve app term except 3 boards more aggressive from the cell. So if u could help that would b great thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Have Roto grip want hammer
Post by: bowlerzs on November 18, 2013, 09:17:22 PM
I would recommend the Hammer First Blood as an aggressive late hooking ball and the Hammer Cold Blood or the Hammer Amp as a strong smooth reacting ball. Both balls will have a strong continuous motion with the Cold Blood being a bit stronger overall.
Title: Re: Have Roto grip want hammer
Post by: Plowboy300 on November 19, 2013, 04:13:29 PM
For what you are looking for, I would recommend the following for you:

Cold Blood (earlier with a strong continuous backend motion)

OR

Amp (cleaner through the front part w/ continuous motion in the backend - is about 4 boards weaker than the Cold Blood)

OR

Absolut Hook  (released today) - This is about 1-2' earlier than the Amp with the same backend motion of the Cold Blood...

Hope this helps with your question....
Title: Re: Have Roto grip want hammer
Post by: vkowalski1970 on November 19, 2013, 09:40:30 PM
Stay with roto. Go defiant soul strong and better backend than mutant. And disturbed, strong and smooth. No offense to Hammwr I like their stuff but those two Roto grips are awesome. Those two you have now are old and in sure don't perform like they use too.
Title: Re: Have Roto grip want hammer
Post by: Dave81644 on November 19, 2013, 10:27:44 PM
the Hammer line is very good, they have some great pieces
i switched from Storm/Roto a few years ago and the Ebonite brands have many options to fit your game.
The EBI group has 50% of the bowling balls sold in the world
Storm/Rot - 25%
Brunswick - 25%
there are a few other stragglers in there, but the overall numbers are pretty close
EBI has some really good R&D and is putting out some awesome pieces
Dont know why you would want to go back to roto
Title: Re: Have Roto grip want hammer
Post by: Fromeartoear on November 20, 2013, 01:35:49 AM
I use to have a black widow. Would that be a good medium reacting ball instead of the new ones? Pretty much what I'm asking what's the difference?
Title: Re: Have Roto grip want hammer
Post by: Jesse James on November 27, 2013, 01:24:47 PM
I tend to throw both Roto and Hammer pieces. I know they list the First Blood as a late breaking backend piece, but I have as yet to see this movement. It does carry well,  but the Cold Blood in my eyes is a much stronger ball. It reads the mids strongly and has a bigger backend to me. Now, having said all that neither of these balls can touch my Hammer 3-D Offset in backend movement. LOL! (just sayin')

P.S. The fact that the EBI group sells 50% of all balls in the world is because it umbrellas 4 different companies, duh! I think that works out to 12.5% per company?Hmmmm. When presented in terms of numbers, kind of makes Storm/Roto and Brunswick look pretty good as well! (just sayin')
Title: Re: Have Roto grip want hammer
Post by: Dave81644 on November 27, 2013, 01:30:59 PM
jesse - storm 12.5%/roto 12.5%
same thing.

Brunswick also has multiple brands

I think EBI makes 100,000-150,000 balls per year
so, thats 200,000 -300,000 new balls on the market every year